If it's a bit quiet today that may be because everyone is at MadSkillz Vancouver 2013, IADF or Mirabilia.
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Well this certainly makes for interesting reading: http://ezine.juggle.org/2012/08/01/a-message-from-the-chair
From the link I was hoping for a Ronnie Corbett sketch.
Interesting indeed. In the past I've seen the #IJA as an organisation for the sake of an organisation, this piece seems to signal a shift to a more business like model, with a focus on providing customers with value for money. Aside from the annual festival the organisation is almost becoming a paid subscription content service. This sort of service hasn't set the world on fire among the big news organisations but I think they are making money (or at least losing less). I do think that a paid content provider for a small niche like juggling could work (although I can't think of any others off the top of my head right now).
I still find it difficult to define what I expect the IJA (or any juggling organisation) to do.
The main thing I took away from that article is that the author is really brilliant. And extremely sexy, too.
Okay. It was me. You hit on some of the real challenges for us (the #IJA) these days. I don't have any doubt what we want to do; we have lots of good programs underway to help the juggling community, and other ideas we haven't been able to pursue due to lack of human resources or funding. The trick is that most of these "for the good of the community" projects cost money. When you say to the world at large, "I'm a nonprofit, and I'm trying to cure cancer. Would you like to give me money?", then there is no shortage of people saying, "I'm not ashamed to say I'm AGAINST cancer! I'd be happy to donate to your cause." But when you are a juggling organization, and many of your potential donor base are jugglers, it is a bit tougher to get donations to serve the greater good. So our challenge becomes how to encourage membership in a way that will actually make us money that we can then use to fund these greater-good type programs. My sense is that our potential members don't even necessarily need to view this like going to a store where they are making a strict purchase; there is some amount of wiggle room for supporting juggling projects. But there is definitely a "what is in it for me" component that we have to address. And as you note, if you ask those same people, "Okay, what can I do for you?", the answer is often, "Hmm. Good question. I don't know."
So this is where we find ourselves. Trying to find ways to make membership attractive enough that jugglers are willing to join us, and in doing so support programs that don't fund themselves. And it is an interesting see-saw we find ourselves on; these days, almost all our expenses are static and don't scale upwards with the number of members. So as we succeed and the membership goes up, it is almost all "profit". And as we're not looking to make a "profit" per se', if we find ourselves with a surplus, then two things are likely to happen. The first is that some of these programs get some love and become more successful. The second is that we can afford to lower membership further. Which then hopefully encourages more people to join, and so on.
I'm pretty proud of what we've done in the last year. I'm hoping we can build on that momentum and keep doing good work. If our efforts speak to people (both the programs and the attempts to improve the value proposition of membership), then the next year could be really fun...
You do realise it is your fault that juggling chat on the internet has plummeted now that it is harder to bash the IJA? :)
I think it is difficult for me to say what an organisation should do because I don't really need any help in sustaining my addiction. I am a juggler & barring death I can't think of anything that would ever change that. I am aware that this is a selfish way of looking at the issue but I find it a little uncomfortable thinking about what an organisation should do to other people. Sounds a bit creepily cultish. Which is why I like the content provider role, if I or anyone wants what you have, I have to go & knock on your door to get it.
"I'm pretty proud of what we've done in the last year. I'm hoping we can build on that momentum and keep doing good work."
This. In spades.
I've never really been what you might call an "IJA fanboy" but the last year or so has seen lots of little tweaks and improvements to the IJA and from what you've said (both here and in your post on the eZine) you've made some slightly larger tweaks already and there are more improvements to come - and these are all positive!
I'm still slightly in the "what's in it for me?" camp - given that a large part of the benefit to me as a customer of the IJA is still a festival I'll probably never be able to attend... but some of the paid for content that's been coming out has been really very tempting! Now that you've dropped the membership price, it's even more tempting!
Your point about donations is an interesting one. What I'm about to say may sound a bit backwards and a-typical but... I'm more tempted by the idea of donating money specifically towards some of the outreach programs than I am by the idea of paying membership fees.
From time to time I have a small amount of disposable cash floating around that I like to do something helpful with, and it usually ends up in the pocket of a charity which interests me at the time.
Is there (or could there be) an easy way to donate money to the IJA (large or small amounts) and have it go directly towards a specific outreach program which appeals to me rather than just going into a big pot of money to bankroll a festival for some white middleclass americans?
I'd be interested in this too, something like Kickstarter for juggling projects.
I like that idea. Kickupstarter perhaps?
I wonder why there aren't more jugglers making use of kickstarter to fund shows/performances/videos/festivals/other projects.
Or are there people doing it, but it's just that no one has told me?
There is also the website indiegogo which does the same thing.
There is currently a group of students from the Montréal school who have made a very nice proposal
The Afghanistan Mobile Mini Circus for Children http://www.juggle.org/programs/mmcc/ is an IJA program with a direct Paypal Donate button. Other donations can go through the store but this requires a login.
The MMCC sounds like the sort of approach I'm thinking of (thanks, I'll bookmark that for the next time I'm swimming in it ;-) but I can only donate to other projects if I'm a member?
That sounds a bit daft to me as an outsider (but probably makes a lot of sense to someone somewhere!)
You don't have to join to use the store. It is world-readable. To make a purchase or donation you'll have to create on account, put the item(s) in your cart, checkout, and then interact with Paypal. The MMCC gets you to Paypal with a single click. http://www.juggle.org/store/
IJA VTC 2012 winners announced:
It would be nice to see the top ten lists & comments for each individual judge (I'm sure at least 2 would oblige!).
I would also love to hear more if the judges are willing to say more =].
Also, I'd love some critism bad or good, as long as it's constructive, on my tutorial =].
I won the peoples choice, but that doesn't come with any comments =P so it's be great to hear comments, even from non judges. Just to help me for future tutorials and such.
Also, I'll have to talk to Thom, but I'm wondering if anyone else would exchange a prize if they would prefer the IJA festival package? Cause I won't be able to make it this year, and it'd be a waste not to use it. I'm extremely happy with my win though! =].
Thankyou to everyone who voted!
Back to that original topic, well done to everyone! I definitely think most of the tutorials deserve the places they got, #1 was also my personal favorite.
Also, I'd love some critism bad or good, as long as it's constructive
You spelled criticism incorrectly.
...on my tutorial
I'm not going to list the good points, because there were A LOT. So well done on that front.
My few gripes though:
Keep focused. I found your wiggling amusing but a beginner may think that you are not taking the trick seriously, & could be interpreted as a little patronising? I understand that when teaching it is hard to remain interested because you will be demonstrating something that you find really easy. But to the person being taught it will generally be really hard. It is also important to remain focused to ensure that you are demonstrating good technique, for example at 3:56 - 3:58 - those drops were rather diagonal! As the greatest juggling tutorial site on the net1 says: "When you make the horizontal carry stop completely before you drop the ball otherwise the momentum of the carry will throw the ball to the side rather than drop it straight down."
Don't film in front of reflective surfaces, you didn't suffer the problem of the visible camera but why run the risk?
Make sure everything is in shot. There are points where your hand & the balls disappear off the top of the screen.
Congratulations on the win. Have an award!
My personal results were:
Mills Mess Variations
by Tim Dresser
Good use of slomo, and clear vocal instructions. On first watch, I found myself getting slightly lost on some of the tricks towards the end of the video, but perhaps that is because I'd not bothered to learn the early ones first. Could have been improved slightly by adding the text name of a trick onscreen, and by showing each trick at full speed before using slomo. However, overall, Very Good.
The Triangle Wave (A 3-D 3-Ball Juggling Pattern)
by Andrew Olson
At first, I thought the HAL voice was a gimmick (well, it IS a gimmick...), but I soon found it mesmeric. Also, at first, I thought the 3D pattern was a gimmicky mess, but as the explanation progressed, I understood what was going on. Also, the explanation was quite clear, so I'm sure I could learn this pattern very easily. I would have shown the pattern with 3 different colour balls at at least one stage though, to emphasise how the balls move through 'triangle wave'. Original (to me, at least) and Very Good.
Darren and Zack Roll Around
by Bill and Ted, err, I mean Darren and Zack
I enjoyed watching this one a lot. The fun presentation style was also backed up with step-by-step details on the trick too. Very Good.
Crossed Arm Boxy Thing #2
by Jordan Campbell
Oh come on, you can't even give your trick a name? Tsk.
However, there was a good step-by-step breakdown of each stage, and tips for dos and don'ts. By the end of the video I felt like I had the trick clearly in my head, and could go off and learn it with a little persistence. The brief safari interludes were nice and short, which helped to break up the video in an interesting, but not too distracting, way. Good.
Neck shower tutorial for the IJA Video Tutorial Contest 2012
by Vasil Magaranov
Slightly disconcerting that the video was completely silent, but ultimately that didn't matter. Covers all elements well, including building up from sitting to standing, 1 to 2 to 3 balls. Throw positions and directions. All very clear and concise. Good.
'The Factory' Juggling Tutorial
Dammit, the 3-beat version of this trick is called The Machine, and the 1-beat version is The Factory. Does no-one remember Fliktriks? Okay, okay, language evolves and all that... right, anyway, on to the video....
Well explained, stage-by-stage, clear and good explanations. Good.
A three club trick
An original trick. Appropriate use of slomo, fairly good breakdown of the stages of the trick. Good. (But, having tried the trick... Ouch!!)
Partner Arm Weave Columns
by Cameron & Yuki
Could have mentioned the timing of when to weave the arm. Although lacking differing angles and slomo shots, the one angle used was quite clear, and the whole pattern easily understood. Good.
How to Throw a Knot in a Rope
Good presentation, fun stye, and covers the elements of the trick well. Perhaps could have used a "possible problems" section, but otherwise, Good.
Claymotion Building Blocks
by Nathan McScary
This video highlights one of my bugbears about tutorial videos: Namely, a tute should tell you *how* to do something, and not simply show/tell you *what* to do. A high percentage of tute videos I see are all about the what, with very little how. HOWEVER, having said that, in this case, the tricks are all composed of very simple elements, and I find this video very easy to follow. (Although shot simply, it was visually all very clear.) So in spite of my reservations, I rate this as Good.
5 ball juggling for the 4 ball juggler
Good clear voiceover commentary, well explained. Perhaps the pace could have been slightly slower, but then there's always "rewind", so I don't mind that so much. Framing was a little too tight, as the catch/throw positions of the hands could not always be clearly seen. Variations 3 & 4 were a little rushed. However, overall, Quite Good.
Devilstick - Butterfly
by Bravo Juggling
Difficulty "Elemental"? I'm not sure about that, but it did build up well step-by-step from the basics. It would definitely have benefited from slomo shots (esp of the overhead shots), and perhaps some graphic arrows to emphasise the motions required. Good.
HOW TO BE COOL!!! PART 2: CATCHIN'
by Will Baswell
This was better than Part one. Very clear explanations of what the tricks were, and clear detail on how to do them. And yet, somehow I felt like something was missing. I'm not sure what, perhaps different angles, perhaps a re-cap, perhaps a slomo shot or two. However, I do feel like I could learn the tricks from this video, so I'm going to end up rating it as Good.
3 Club Slap-Backs
Covers the basic elements well. Perhaps could have done with a few slomo and closeup shots, and a mention of how to slow the pattern down (i found it had a tendency to rapidly speed up when I was learning this trick). However, overall, Good.
Learning to Weave
by Graham Paasch
Video and vocal quality was slightly below par, but this is made up for by the clear explanations. Perhaps a couple more slomo shots and angles would have helped. Overall, Quite Good.
How to compete in the IJA Team Championships
I enjoyed watching this video a lot, but found myself thinking "Does the jokey style of presentation detract from getting the points across?", but then at the end of the video, Reid addresses exactly this point. So... Good.
Kansas City Juggling Club IJA Video Tutorial, Magic Gravity Ball Volume 1
by Kansas City Jugglers
Wonderfully silly nonsense. I enjoyed it a lot, but no points for this comp.
Heh, clever Edge removed some of my pointy-bracket comments on The Factory tutorial:
[entering grumpy old juggler mode] Dammit, the 3-beat version of this trick is called The Machine, and the 1-beat version is The Factory. Does no-one remember Fliktriks? [/gojm]
Haha well I'll remember that for the future!
I called it the machine to begin with and was going to say machine/factory/robot in the video but after searching around I noticed the factory was the name most commonly used so that's why I went with that! =].
I'm glad to see I was picked in your top ten void :) makes me feel good =D.
The Triangle Wave (A 3-D 3-Ball Juggling Pattern)...
I'm having trouble understanding one of the prerequisites. Am I right in thinking HAL says "the flying octopus variation of Luke's Loop"? If so, anyone know of any tutorials on it? I was searching for both "Lukes Loop" and "flying octopus...". It does look pretty cool.
So what do people think of the IJA eZine?
I'm quite impressed so far but I think some of that is down to the fact that it is really nice to see the IJA successfully doing something positive, whereas before my only information about the IJA was from people either trying to save it or ranting against it.
I particularly liked Dave Walden's piece on the IJA newsletter, I've still got a complete collection of #TWJC newsletters. They started off as 1 side of A4, then ballooned to up to 8 pages when I took over before settling down a bit. I remember feeling immensely proud when people came up to me for a newsletter then would sit around the edge of the hall reading & chuckling.
I always enjoyed the battle between me & the then chairman about the level of innuendo I could cram in.
Personally I think the #IJA e-zine is the most exciting thing I've seen from the IJA in the 17 years I've been aware of its existance (I just wish I had the time to write for it!)
The free content has been pretty good so far, and some of the paid for content looks attractive too - not quite attractive enough to make me spring for membership yet, but it's early days.
Have you considered scanning in your collection of #TWJC newsletters and slapping them up somewhere as PDFs? Several people have discussed doing that with The Catch, and I think Mini said he's got a reasonably complete collection of 2-Ply Press which I'd also love to read.
Even if you don't know the people mentioned in the newsletters, this sort of thing is good fun to read from a historical point of view.
Coo they don't make staples like they used to.
I've just finished scanning in all our old newsletters that include some horrendous abuse of Word art! I'll put them online tonight.
Somehow I thought you might have a completely unbiased opinion to offer on the subject... ;-)
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