Threads tagged #shortcircusfilm

Orinoco - 2015-06-21 15:49:00 UTC - Parent #

0:32 to 0:39 is particularly pleasing!

david - 2015-06-21 20:02:24 UTC - Parent #

I liked how the seasons changed and the juggler didn't seem to.

The Void - 2014-01-09 16:13:25 UTC - Parent #

If you want it Featured, you know what to do.

Little Paul - 2014-01-09 16:20:39 UTC - Parent #

Talking of your videos, you mentioned something recently about a video you "shot, graded and edited on an iPhone" and I was wondering - what app are you using for grading?

Orinoco - 2014-01-09 18:24:44 UTC - Parent #

Love the first trick.

I also really like your version of the Anthony Gatto style combination. There is something pleasing about seeing a combination trick of three distinct skills performed with the exact same prop.

mtb - 2014-01-13 21:12:53 UTC - Parent #

I liked these, thanks for sharing.

The Void - 2014-01-14 12:27:42 UTC - Parent #

Groovy stuff, and all the nicer for being unsquare. :-) Thanks.

Norbi - 2014-01-17 00:18:22 UTC - Parent #

After various troubles, it's now on your favourite juggling video website!
http://juggling.tv/13749

(and Vimeo, for those so inclined)
https://vimeo.com/83811029

thegoheads - 2013-12-16 15:28:21 UTC - Parent #

Congratulations. You took a couple elements that I don't really care about and turned them into a video that I really really enjoyed. This was my favorite of your recent videos even though it doesn't have any juggling! Great work :) looking forward to the next one.

-Steve

pumpkineater23 - 2013-12-16 16:59:31 UTC - Parent #

Very nicely done - Great video!

Little Paul - 2014-03-19 07:34:25 UTC - Parent #

Norbi is too modest to mention it here, but this video has been officially selected for the "Filmed by Bike" film festival in Portland, OR.

Yay Norbi! https://jugglernorbi.tumblr.com/post/79774481450/

Little Paul - 2014-04-22 17:42:41 UTC - Parent #

Good luck! Do let us know how you get on!

Little Paul - 2014-04-26 16:18:30 UTC - Parent #

Nice one! A well deserved win in my book, it's a lovely piece :)

The Void - 2014-04-26 16:45:07 UTC - Parent #

Ace! Glad I bothered to go and vote for you. "Landslide" is good though - implies it wasn't just your friends voting you up. :-)
Well done.

emilyw - 2014-04-27 08:34:15 UTC - Parent #

well deserved that!

pumpkineater23 - 2014-04-22 19:25:51 UTC - Parent #

Done. Good luck!

The Void - 2013-07-06 22:06:27 UTC - Parent #

I completely agree that you should make the video that pleases yourself.
Yes, I found something enjoyable, and that was the videography. I'm afraid the music didn't do it for me, and nor did Jorge's combination of movement and juggling. Ah well.

Norbi - 2013-07-19 16:00:57 UTC - Parent #

I just posted about the video on my blog, with some extra info. There is also a bit of background about every video I have made. Ranging from a little extra information, to the whole history behind it.

https://bit.ly/14k4jKP

Enjoy.

mtb - 2013-07-24 21:02:42 UTC - Parent #

I liked the juggling, and the cinematography was lovely.

I did intend to give a more thorough critique, if it was wanted, but have forgotten most of my comments now. :(

emilyw - 2013-09-07 11:46:03 UTC - Parent #

That was very interesting to watch (I had it marked unread since you posted it, and only now got around to watching it!)

At the beginning it felt like the videography was getting in the way of the juggler; I wanted to see his story and some of the cuts were breaking it up and chopping him up and I felt frustrated that I couldn't see more of his performance.
Later on it became more obvious that the juggler doesn't have a coherent story; to the extent that he's performing, he's doing it in a very introverted kind of way and without acknowledgement of an audience (and I'm not referring to the fact that he doesn't mug to the camera!)
So then it started to feel that the videographer is trying to impose a story and a performance onto this introvert-juggling; the audience, in the person of the videographer, is dragging the performance out of the performer in some sense, rather than enhancing it.

By the end of it, I felt that it was rather a valiant effort by the videographer to create this performance, but I felt let down by the juggler's contributions. His juggling looks like it would lend itself well to performance, if he was interested in going down that route, and I'd be very interested to see what he might do along those lines.

Little Paul - 2013-04-24 06:52:25 UTC - Parent #

Nice! You're really getting the hang of this video lark.

Also lovely to see a hat routine using "hats someone might conceivably wear" rather than Nills Poll. More of this sort of thing!

Orinoco - 2013-04-27 09:28:50 UTC - Parent #

When you posted this last week, I was a bit stressed & harried so I purposefully made a point of not watching it until I had the time to sit down & enjoy it.

I was very right to do that!

This film is thoroughly charming!

Norbi - 2013-07-04 19:06:52 UTC - Parent #

#ShortCircusFilm

Little Paul - 2013-02-04 22:22:31 UTC - Parent #

Finally got around to watching this, and it's lovely!

Lovely routine, great skills and movement, well shot on a gorgeous set... but what I really like is that the props give the whole routine a motivation.

This is probably the first cigarbox routine I've ever seen which "makes sense" - I can see how someone alone in a library for hours on end could pick up some books and play with them in this way (although realistically, that wouldn't work - but you know what I mean!)

When cigar boxes were first used as a prop, they were familiar objects. As time went on, cigar smoking declined and juggling cigar boxes became more stylised until they just became a "thing jugglers do"

This reverses that trend, and I loved it because of that.

A few years back, I'd have typed "Ewano you need to watch this"

Norbi - 2013-07-04 19:10:27 UTC - Parent #

#ShortCircusFilm

Norbi - 2013-07-04 19:13:04 UTC - Parent #

#ShortCircusFilm

The Void - 2012-06-30 10:49:17 UTC - Parent #

Ah splendid. I couldn't quite put my finger on exactly why the first version didn't click with me, but this one does.
*Presses the JTV Feature button*
And well done you for listening.

Little Paul - 2012-07-01 08:53:40 UTC - Parent #

That's *much* better.

I mean I liked the first version, but it had a few glitches - this version however hangs together really nicely and I only actually noticed the editing about twice, which were both "wow - nice" moments.

In my opinion, that's exactly the way editing should be. Unnoticed.

Norbi - 2012-07-01 22:49:32 UTC - Parent #

Well I thank you all for your kind words. I'm very happy with this edit and I'm glad to see that I'm not alone.

I’d like to explain, if I may, the difficulty around making this video, and why the first edit wasn’t quite up to it.


The idea/planning:
I had been away in Germany and had missed the entire development of this act. Last I saw, it was still very much research. As soon as I got back, he was very eager to show me it, and upon seeing it I instantly knew that I wanted to make a video of it.

My first idea was to try and find an old bar somewhere. The lighting from pool tables and such, the grainy, dirty atmosphere, combined with some gritty blues music. Unfortunately we were in full swing with the end of year show creation, and it was a tough thing to organize (especially getting permission to go into a bar and start doing acrobatics).
My second idea would be on the street, under a street lamp. I really wanted the dark exterior with the strong triangle of light (however cliché it may be). I experimented a bit, but the contrast was never as nice as I hoped. I didn’t have enough confidence in my post-prod abilities and didn’t want to film a whole video that would look like crap.
Then the end of the year show was upon us. There was a section with a giant very clean circle on the floor, which was really beautiful. I decided that this would be it.
My original plan was to film the whole routine (which he’d never tried in this lighting…the balance tricks are not so fun with a giant spot in your face) from 2 or 3 angles, followed by close up of almost every trick and some very close face-shots.
Unfortunately we had to get the lighting team in early (even if it was just to turn the desk on and click on lighting cue number 317) and turn off all the house lights and clear the stage (effectively stopping the warm-up time of 60 students)… This gave us the option of a 10 minute slot to film everything. 2 days after that, he was leaving to start a 2 year contract with Cirque Éloize, and I really wanted to make this video, so we took it, we took the 10 minutes. With almost no warm-up, we filmed the routine in its entirety from one angle, and then I filmed a few tricks in close-up, before being stopped by the admins.

Editing:
I wanted to show the whole routine, changing angles at times to keep it interesting. Not possible due to shot restraints. Also, as we only had one chance of the whole routine, he dropped a couple times. I couldn’t very well leave the drops in, but I had nothing else as filler, which explains why it sometimes cut from one angle to same angle in the middle of a sequence. I wasn’t happy with it, but couldn’t think of anything to do.
Part of my nature (and I’m sure I’m not alone, among jugglers) is the fact that I get bored of something very fast. I knew that if I didn’t finish editing the video that day, it was just get forgotten about and I would never do it…that lead me to rush it. I showed it to a few people who all said it was nice (like you’ve said too, it was nice…just not quite right). So I figured it would be good enough, and I put it online.

It was ignored (but with the death of the IJDb, I know there is a lot attention towards videos. Not to mention summer was starting), I got a bunch of dislikes on YouTube (might seem arrogant, but I think it’s normal to feel, that after a couple of dislikes, I start to take it badly) and I got various negative comments about it (I have, of course, learnt that the new generation don’t care much if there isn’t some enormous juggling in it).
I can take criticism, but don’t take kindly to useless negative comments. A big thank you to Orinoco who was very honest and who pointed out very well everything he didn’t like…quite fortunately, it included things already on my mind and things I wasn’t happy with from the first edit. I still waited it out to see if anyone else would be constructive.

Finally, after thinking about it for a couple weeks, I took 3 days (around 21 hours total) to make the new edit. It started by remixing the song from 4 minutes down to 2 minutes, which helped me a lot. I really tried to follow the comment of not letting the stage be empty – never letting Jé go into the black, and also trying to keep the hat in shot too. I cut it up and timed it with the music nicely. A lot nicer, but it was still just a video. I was trying to find a way to mask the transition more – flashes and fades weren’t cutting it. Then I came across a fantastic lights pack, a few GBs of various different style lights. A LOT of cutting, mixing, changing, and editing, rinse and repeat later…they were the icing.

I showed the new version to the same people as the first version and the result was nothing but positive.

Voilà.

I don’t know how much that may interest you, but I think it’s nice sometimes to know how things come about.

Norbi

lucasgabd - 2012-07-02 12:45:14 UTC - Parent #

10 mins to record that video? (I know it's not only that, but effectively, you got it...) You're my hero! haha
I really enjoy your videos! Did you ever go to film school or took some courses? or you learned everything by yourself?

I really liked the glances of light that comes in the open plan (don't know if you say like that in english, well, the plan where you recorded the whole routine), how did you do that? There are presets for that or something? Is some kind of affect on AE?

Thanks a lot for the video and thanks for sharing the story behind it, it's really interesting.

The Void - 2012-07-02 12:47:51 UTC - Parent #

Interesting, cheers.

Orinoco - 2012-07-02 18:34:38 UTC - Parent #

I'm a sucker for the documentaries & extra features on DVDs so I found that very interesting, thank you.

I don't think anyone else has ever given any background info on a juggling video such as you just did. Which is a shame for the reasons LP mentioned above. I think a lot of people get a camera & think "Brilliant! What direction shall I point it?". If more people talked constructively about what does & doesn't make a good video through the process of osmosis videos will get better plus people might start to appreciate the editors that little bit more which I think is something lacking.

Norbi - 2013-07-04 19:15:26 UTC - Parent #

#ShortCircusFilm

pumpkineater23 - 2013-07-05 10:18:02 UTC - Parent #

I also prefered this one. It felt that the emphasis was on what he was doing rather than on the editing.