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LizzyPeat -

Newbury Juggling club (UK) is not meeting for the foreseeable future, our hall rang today to tell me they have cancelled all bookings in order to protect their elderly residents from the virus of evil. Sorry everyone!

With best wishes,
Lizzy Peat
#NewburyJC

Orinoco - - Parent

Sucks, but I think it is for the best.

A couple of friends & I have tickets to see The Cat Empire in Brighton tonight. We've all decided not to go :(

Social distancing FTW!

John R - - Parent

As of today, Hullabaloo (Leeds Juggling Club) and Bedford Juggling Club have both closed for the foreseeable future, too.

I plan to take up tiddlywinks. Bah.

#Hullabaloo
#BedfordJC

Orinoco - - Parent

Mïark has also done a great job marking events as cancelled over the weekend. I cancelled a couple more last night after notifications from organisers. I suspect more will follow suit & more have already been cancelled but we've not heard.

I'm curious though, is there much sentiment among people that clubs & events should continue right now? There isn't among most people I know.

Alice - - Parent

Personally I think we have a social responsibility to try to heed government advice which is to avoid unnecessary social contact. I hate missing the club and having to cancel but this this has not even started yet, if the models are correct in a few weeks we will Well and truly in the s**t, this situation is unprecedented and largely unknown and, until we do know more I think we have to trust the experts.. Who suddenly seem to be back in fashion!
Alice

Mïark - - Parent

Spinning@ are also closed for the time being.

Would it be a useful thing to have an open ended "Closed until Corona Virus risk calms down" rather than trying to guess when the club will reopen for the club listings? Or is it a lot of work for not much gain? Or do club organisers need a date so they can come back and mark their club as now open or still closed.

There are quite a few events in April just waiting to see what their government regulations/advice or venues policy is.

Guess a lot of jugglers will be practising solo skills till things clear up

York Jugglers - - Parent

York Jugglers will also be closed until this virus is over, at least we can still practise at home, there may be a huge improvement in the standard of solo juggling by the time meetings start again.

#yorkjugglers
#coronavirus

The Void - - Parent

#Altern8 club in Bristol is now also suspended until further notice.

#StayAtHome

Cedric Lackpot - - Parent

Leicester Jugglers closed for twelve weeks minimum unless we find another venue :(

Dee -

17 bodies at #Altern8 this evening. All butter stem ginger cookies were the "special" biscuits (chocolate digestives and chocolate chip cookies were also available)

The Void - - Parent

Hmmm. We'd probably need a regular turnout that high before we started investing in fancy biscuit trays.

Bez - - Parent

I throughly enjoyed being one of those bodies :-)

Orinoco - - Parent

Hello new person!

Bez - - Parent

Hello Orinoco!

The Void - - Parent

Well done on learning to juggle clubs so quickly too! (If that was you...)

Bez - - Parent

Twas me :-)
Thanks.

Little Paul - - Parent

I'm glad you had an enjoyable time as I feel strongly that everyone called Bez should have Happy Mondays

Bez - - Parent

Hee hee.
Hadn't spotted that link!
I chose it because it's how my niece used to pronounce my name...

Orinoco - - Parent

17 bodies? Sounds like a bit of a massacre.

Ethan - - Parent

I wish American juggling clubs were like British juggling clubs:(

Chris - - Parent

Be the change you want to see in the world. Turn up with biscuit.

By which I don't mean those savoury scone-looking things.

Ethan - - Parent

you're right!!!

Ethan - - Parent

However I'm not part of any juggling club at the moment because:

1.my orchestra rehearses Monday nights, which is the night that closest juggling club meets

2. The other juggling club is an hours drive away

3. The other other juggling club is like 3 hours away, and it's more "flow arts" maaannnnn......peace and love maaannnn;) Fire circles maaaaaannnn......

York Jugglers - - Parent

This is what happened at York Jugglers, ~15 years ago, two of the members started making tea for everybody (who wanted it) and brought cake to share and we have carried on having tea each week ever since. Though these days it is tea with shop-bought biscuits rather than homemade cake.

#yorkjugglers

Bez - - Parent

I can't make it to altern8 tonight (boo). Hope you all have a good evening.

The Void - - Parent

Cheers Bez, see you another week!

Dee - - Parent

No juggling for me tonight either; flying in from Dublin this morning means that my day started at 4am... so I'm not exactly fit for much at the moment.

The Void - - Parent

Well, we had 16 tonight, even without the two of you. So that's an i crease, right?!

The Void - - Parent

N is very close to the space bar. So there.

Bez - - Parent

Sound maths. Interesting typo.

No mention of biscuits!

Richard Loxley - - Parent

This week's specials were posh choc-chip & hazelnut cookies, and jaffa cakes. (Plus the usuals such as chocolate digestives, chocolate hobnobs, and something boring that I didn't pay any attention to.)

Tea was delayed though due to lack of milk as Ian was late arriving. After 35 minutes I put my coat on and walked to the end of the drive to go and buy milk. That was of course sufficient motivation to the universe to cause Ian to appear with the milk :-)

Bez - - Parent

Ha ha, a tea & biscuit report.

I like it.

Irony is I can't have either.

But it still amuses me ;-)

Monte - - Parent

is i crease an Apple ironing app?

The Void - - Parent

That would be i decrease surely? Or i smooth?

Anyway, get you, knowing what an app is. ;-P

Little Paul - - Parent

iRoning

Monte - - Parent

Well I've always used an iron to put the perfect crease down my trousers and an app is a pointless piece of software designed to part a fool from his money.

Bez - - Parent

Hope you are recovered from your early start yesterday Dee.

The Void - - Parent

24 tonight! Swelled a little by the monthly kendama crew.

I almost forgot to eat a biscuit. Oh, and Stumpy had happy birthday sung to him, and there was cake. fak was teaching Will to pass balls, James was working on his crossing Infinite Suicide, and had a unicycle run as the hall was clearing. Club passing was happening at both ends, and I saw Lucas almost get an excellent wall pass to his partner. Rob has his big green rings up.

York Jugglers -

We knew this weeks juggling session would be a bit different, as a local language school had contacted us and asked whether they could bring their students to our weekly meeting to learn juggling. We agreed to this as long as they forewarned us and let us know exactly how many were coming, so we could make sure we had enough equipment (luckily York Jugglesoc lent us some of their workshop kit). So twenty Spanish teenagers came, none had juggled before, but after an hour quite a few could manage several successful throws of a three ball cascade. They also learnt contact juggling, passing, diabolo, club balance and plate spinning. There was some consternation about washing up 30+ mugs if they wanted to join us for tea, but they had to leave early to catch their bus, so we had a late tea break without them. It was quite intense, but a busy week like this will help our coffers and keep us going over the quiet weeks of the summer, their teacher said he might come back to learn more juggling without his class.

Over a cup of tea we wondered if our workshop at the fête/community party at the local park last Sunday would attract any new members, the workshop had been popular and there were plenty of people who could already juggle/diable/poi-wave but no definite recruits. It had been a lovely day to juggle in the park so nothing lost.


#YorkJugglers

York Jugglers -

Hmm, if Bristol are writing reviews of juggling meetings as well as Tunbridge Wells, perhaps we should too:

This Tuesday meeting we were celebrating Japanese Bean Throwing Day (節分 Setsubun) by the throwing of beanbags.
We weren't expecting expecting a huge turnout following possible juggling exhaustion from holding Chocfest on Saturday and then a marathon 17 hour juggling session on Sunday, but we were very pleased to see J again who hadn't been able to come the past few weeks as he had been rehearsing for the première of his new show. Sadly J then cut his hand open on a beanbag and despite the venue's first aid kit being about 10 years past its expiry date we managed to successfully bandage his hand without too much mummification.

After an unsolicited advert in a local free magazine we had two new members, one who hadn't juggled for 25 years and another beginner wanting to learn juggling and poi spinning. D and A taught how to juggle while M tried to teach Poi, fortunately E took over the poi teaching. K who hadn't juggled for 25 years very quickly learnt how to do new tricks.

Apart from the beginners and J's bloodstained beanbag juggling and experiments combining different sizes of juggling rings, The meeting did seem to be a bit juggling club dominated, including E & M passing PassPassZipPassZip combined with PassPassHeffPassSelf, A & M passing Whynot and 7 clubs. D is still not juggling his brand new clubs, but using his old ones.

In the tea break it was discussed whether chocolate biscuits should be chocolate side up or chocolate side down.

#YorkJugglers

Lorri - - Parent

How do you cut your hand on a beanbag?

And my vote goes with up.

Orinoco - - Parent

Drawing pins do not make a good beanbag filling.

I also go with chocolate side up. I've heard people argue that you should eat them chocolate side down so the chocolate hits your tastebuds first/more but to me the biscuit is just as if not more important than the chocolate. If you want to taste chocolate, eat a chocolate bar!

Danny Colyer - - Parent

My wife eats chocolate biscuits chocolate side up, which has always struck me as rather strange.  If you don't want to taste chocolate, eat a non-chocolatey biscuit!

emilyw - - Parent

Chocolate up means more chocolate gets in your mouth as opposed to melting on your fingers while you try and scoff the thing.

What I don't like are those chocolate biscuits with a secret layer of caramel under the chocolate, so they masquerade as a regular choccy biccy, but then when you go to take a bite you end up stuck to the biscuit with crumbs everywhere! False advertising I say.

Little Paul - - Parent

Those caramel biscuits sound like a good idea when you read the packet, but the caramel is always too hard and chewey which makes them near impossible to eat.

I have the same issue with some brands of jammy dodger

Orinoco - - Parent

Sounds like you are not getting your biscuits up to the proper temperature.

Little Paul - - Parent

I've tried warming them on top of the mug of tea, but by the time the caramel has suitably softened, the chocolate is almost liquid :(

Orinoco - - Parent

Ah, in which case you must like your caramel very soft. Have you tried Tregroes toffee waffles? They are fantastic when warmed on the top of a mug of tea.

Mïark - - Parent

Stroopwafels are wonderful biscuits designed to fit perfectly on top of your cup of tea while they warm up to the correct temperature - but why would you adulterate them with chocolate!

Little Paul - - Parent

Indeed!

I'm pleased to see that over the last year or so they've become easy to get hold of in uk supermarkets, I don't have to "import" them any more. Which is good, because my dutch colleague hasn't been to visit his family recently :)

emilyw - - Parent

It's not the consistency of the caramel per se, it's sticking the stiff caramel to a relatively crumbly biscuit and then disguising the whole thing as a more consistent kind of biscuit. It's too difficult to eat it all tidily, especially when you don't realise you've picked up a Sneaky Caramel Combo until the crumbs have already all gone on the floor!

Topper - - Parent

Two chocolate biscuits at once so chocolate up and down at the same time.

Richard Loxley - - Parent

After having this discussion many times at juggling meet-ups, I have tried both methods.

I find that chocolate-side up tastes more chocolatey than chocolate-side down.

I suspect one's chewing action makes a significant difference to the taste distribution.

Little Paul - - Parent

Chocolate side up, preferably plain chocolate topped with a slice of nice strong cheddar cheese.

Sounds weird, but totally awesome

emilyw - - Parent

Cheese is for GINGER biscuits. Philistine.

Mïark - - Parent

Cheese is for fruit cakes.

Little Paul - - Parent

Oh god yes.

This with (baby) bells on

emilyw - - Parent

I eat cheese and am not a fruit cake!

Little Paul - - Parent

It's not an either or.

Cheese is also nice with hobnobs, bourbons and malted milk. Not so good on a custard cream though

Al_Bee - - Parent

Bristol is writing reviews of Tunbridge Wells?

The Void - - Parent

*points and laughs at the poor attempt at semantic vertigo*

Jessica Rouge -

Hi everybody, I have just joined *wave* x

York Jugglers - - Parent

Hi Jessica, welcome to Juggling Edge *wave* Can you let someone from Huggles know that they need to update the venue on the Huggles listing from New Cleveland Club to Salisbury Hall.

Jessica Rouge - - Parent

Sure!, no probs.

Is your club on over the summer hols. I might pop over. X

York Jugglers - - Parent

Yes we are meeting over the summer holidays, (the uni club is closed) it would be great to see you.

(if we ever do have to cancel a meeting it will say on website, juggling edge, facebook, twitter, google+, etc)

#YorkJugglers

Orinoco - - Parent

Hi Jessica *waves back*, another Yorkie then I take it?

RegularJugular -

Why do you attend your local juggling clubs?

What is their purpose?

Background:
OK, so I tried to promote my juggling club (effectively on my own) yesterday. This involved both an attempt to interact with the public and a 'juggling' performance. It went about as well as I could have expected for a person inexperienced at dealing with the general public on his own. At least I wore my glasses this time, even if I still wasn't prepared.

The Spark:
"There is a juggling club!?" in response to my talking about my local juggling club.

I feel if I'd have prepared better I would have had a good justification for why juggling clubs exist. I tried to justify it from my perspective, but I'd never really thought about it, especially not to a person with an attitude that seemed to be treading a narrow minded line. Looking back on it I go for social reasons, because my lounge is a bit cramped, I like to do group juggling and because well we find it fun, OK?. Still not good enough as a retort. Anyway: I should have prepared better.

SO, why do you attend your local juggling club or clubs? (I set this as a compo, so there's a prize for the best answer. By prize, I mean prestige and also kudos.)

Cheers

This is a competition thread which ran from 16th Jun 2013 to 26th Jun 2013. View results.

RegularJugular - - Parent

Additional bonus 'learning experience':

They also asked "Why can't you do it in a pub?"

"hmmm, because throwing things around glasses full of beer, sounds like a great idea", does not sound like the most friendly of responses. I claimed something about high ceilings at the time. *FACEPALM*

Votes: 1

Roflcopter - - Parent

I guess I would say that just as any other hobby or sport it is beneficial to interact and connect with other practitioners. Juggling clubs exsist for pretty much the same reason pubs,youth groups,gyms,and boxing clubs or salons do; to exchange information about a certain subject and for simple merry making.
That's just what I'm thinking.

Orinoco - - Parent

Tea & cake.

(We don't actually do much tea & cake at TWJC, but this will be the winning post)

Votes: 3

Little Paul - - Parent

*free* tea and cake.

(just to mop up some more votes than Orin...)

Votes: 2

varkor - - Parent

Please do share which juggling club you go to!

Little Paul - - Parent

Heh! I don't really go juggling any more, but I can only think of 2 clubs I've ever been to (out of 9ish) where they charged for tea, and at least two of the clubs I've been to over the years has had free cake on a semiregular basis.

Saturday mornings in Birmingham used to have a toaster... that was great! Turn up with a hangover on a Saturday morning, drink tea and eat toast until you felt well enough to juggle - then go home because the hall was about to close. I miss that club, I think it's gone now.

Altern8 in Bristol (Monday nights) still does free tea and biscuits (as far as I know) and it's not unheard of for cake or large quantities of chocolate to turn up there and be dished out to anyone who wanted any.

The Void - - Parent

There were flapjacks last week.
#altern8

RegularJugular - - Parent

CircusWurx in Crawley had Tea and Biscuits the times I've been there. Up for grabs in Totnes definitely had Tea every time I went, although I don't remember there being Biscuits sadly. Both had the refreshments about half way through the session and I can't imagine they've given up their traditional half-time breaks.

emilyw - - Parent

The Sheffield Flying Teapots has free tea and biscuits, and in its heyday also had a space festooned with sofas, on which to imbibe the tea and munch the biscuits.

I think the tea-based social scene helped to keep members who had kind of lost interest (temporarily or otherwise) in juggling, and their presence in turn helped retain new beginner members, by teaching and being helpful and sociable and friendly. Sometimes, deeply committed jugglers don't make good club organisers, because they're too busy facing a wall working on their seven balls to engage with newbies long enough or often enough.

Little Paul - - Parent

Whenever someone asks for advice about starting up a juggling club I emphasise the social/tea/biscuits/cake/pub side of things. A half time
tea break, or a post meet pub trip is an opportunity to talk to the siteswap-in-the-corner jugglers

I firmly believe its instrumental in retaining new/old members

Votes: 1

York Jugglers - - Parent

At York Jugglers we used to have tea and cake at half-time, but that has become tea and biscuits more recently.
The university club in York quite often have cake, but you have to take your own drinks.

I agree with Paul that is is very important to have a sociable time at club meetings and tea & cake is a good reason to pause from juggling for a moment and be more sociable.

We used to all go to the pub after juggling, but that tradition sadly seems to have died out, perhaps because so many members come from further afield or don't drink.

#YorkJugglers , #JuggleSoc

Mïark - - Parent

Hullabaloo in Leeds has free tea & biscuits (often chocolate digestives), when the hall was free there was no charge for juggling but a collection box for contributions towards the tea and biscuits fund (unfortunately the days of a free hall are now in the past).

Alice - - Parent

I go to my juggling club because I enjoy it; also I have the key and have to let everyone else in.
Hullabaloo also (usually) go to the pub afterwards, best bit of the evening!
Alice

Votes: 1

RegularJugular - - Parent

You're right about the 'Tea and Cake'. However have you ever had/tried to justify TWJC's existence to anybody? What did you/would you have said? Did they find that watching a Zumba demonstration was more interesting?

Ok so Tea and C... Eureka! That's what I did wrong yesterday. I didn't give the impression there was any possibility of Free Food and Drink!!! I could have been there with cupcakes iced with juggling props or TWJC lettering. That's a load more accessible than 'throw something and catch something repeatedly'.

In fact being there with some other people would have helped too, then I might have looked more sociable. However only with hindsight did I realise the importance of that at this 'school summer fair' exercise.

Orinoco - - Parent

I've never *had* to justify TWJC & I don't think I ever will. It's not as if we are hurting anyone (ok aside from each other sometimes).

As an entertainer (or not as an entertainer for that matter), if someone asks a question try not to automatically treat it as a confrontation. You don't 'fail' or 'lose' if you don't have an answer.

In terms of encouraging people along to a juggling club remember just because you enjoy something doesn't mean that anyone else has to enjoy it too.

RegularJugular - - Parent

It was hypothetical, at least I thought it was. A thought exercise if you will. It was not intended to be confrontational, although it probably came off as that, sorry.

I was well aware of the other two points at the time although I did over react and didn't know how to deal with my mood fluctuations on the day.

Mats1 - - Parent

For a practice space for juggling, to learn new juggling tricks but mostly, to be sociable with a bunch of fairly like-minded, friendly people.

-Formerly of the Leicester juggling club (dearly missed

Mats1 - - Parent

-Also formerly of Glasgow juggling club.

-Now of the Norwich juggling club.

(The Edge seems to have trimmed my last post a bit. Weird.)

Robotic juggle - - Parent

wish some american clubs served tea :(

Little Paul - - Parent

What do you get? Gator aid or something?

Mïark - - Parent

Shouldn't have thrown all the tea into Boston Harbour then.

Roflcopter - - Parent

Hahahahah!
That was a good one.Brightened up my morning.

mtb - - Parent

Well played, that man.

Nicholas - - Parent

Oh, by the way, we spell "harbor" correctly here. ;)

mtb - - Parent

Yo mean withot sing any ""s?

varkor - - Parent

How ironic—you just misspelled it ;)

thegoheads - - Parent

I find that when I juggle with other people, I almost always try things I normally never would or never have before. Even when juggling with beginners, regardless of me having a higher skill level I still get ideas from them. In short, it keeps me inspired and keeps my juggling fresh and new. Also, juggling games like HORSE or endurance type games add a whole new element that you can't really do by yourself.

I don't think that's a good reason to convince random people to want to start going to clubs and learning juggling, but that's my reason anyway. I think the best way to accomplish what you were trying to do is just be incredibly enthusiastic. If you make is seem that what you're doing is sooooo much fun (which, coincidentally, it is!) that people are crazy for not at least trying it, maybe it would encourage people to show up just to make sure they're not missing the next big thing. :)

-Steve

Votes: 1

varkor - - Parent

Do you not call it JUGGLE? I thought that was the generally accepted name for the game.

thegoheads - - Parent

Yes, I usually play it as JUGGLE. As far as I know it originated as a trick shot basketball game called HORSE with the same basic idea and rules. I guess I could have typed JUGGLE instead and it would have made more sense. Sometimes we play it with other words too, for a shorter or longer game. It doesn't so much matter what the word is, just how many letters it has.

-Steve

Mats1 - - Parent

It does matter quite a bit what the word is...

thegoheads - - Parent

heh, ok, why?

pumpkineater23 - - Parent

Everybody's heard. The bird is the word.

Votes: 1

Mats1 - - Parent

Saying things like "Who wants a game of c-h-e-s-s?" or "Anyone for a game of s-c-r-a-b-b-l-e?" could be pretty confusing. Games such as a-n-t-i-d-i-s-e-s-t-a-b-l-i-s-h-m-e-n-t-a-r-i-a-n-i-s-m are just plain long and various profanities are probably pretty bad words to pick too.

The Void - - Parent

Looking at the time, it's a bit late for a game of antidisestablishmentarianism.

Marvin - - Parent

This competition has now ended. Here are the results:

  1. Orinoco (3 votes)
  2. Little Paul (2 votes)
  3. RegularJugular (1 vote)
  4. thegoheads (1 vote)
  5. Little Paul (1 vote)
  6. pumpkineater23 (1 vote)
  7. Alice (1 vote)
  8. Cedric Lackpot (1 vote)

Orinoco -

The usual hall at #Hastings is being used as a homeless shelter over winter so we had the run of St John's Church instead. While waiting outside to get the keys sorted everyone spent time congratulating Rob & Laura on getting engaged earlier in the month. Well done guys. After the correct key was located I managed to not burst into flames as I entered the building which was a result. The first thing we all did was have a good explore around the place. I may not be a believer but I still find old churches to be fascinating & beautiful buildings. Naturally I took the opportunity to juggle 7 balls from the pulpit. Rob & Laura did some front to back passing while sitting in the pews. I had left my skates at home because I didn't want to do any damage to the place but apparently the pastor was all for unicycling down the aisle so Kev dutifully obliged. I also managed to pull off my first ever bird fly over the valley with the kendama which made me very happy.

Bosco - - Parent

Anyone remember the Belgian Tournai Convention in a church in 1991? Juggling, sleeping, strange multi-person cardboard box games at night ...... 

Juggling in, out, over, under through (?) the pulpit.  No flames there either.

Churches have height.

Orinoco - - Parent

Nope, don't remember it at all :(

What were the cardboard box games & why haven't we played them at Hastings?

York Jugglers - - Parent

Occasionally York Jugglers (#YorkJugglers) have to move in to the church when the church hall is being used by somebody more important. It is alledgedly the tallest church in York so it has plenty of ceiling height, but sadly the fixed pews limit the available floor space. Josh filmed part of the new Shreddie Crunch video in the church.

Selby Abbey was quite successfully used as a one-day juggling convention venue for Chocfest 14 (#Chocfest14) and Chocfest 15 (#Chocfest15).

Little Paul - - Parent

From time to time the Monday night juggling in Bristol has had to move out of the church hall and in to the church (not sure how recently they've had to do this though - it's been a long time since I was a regular)

It always felt a bit "odd" as if we shouldn't be there, but it's a nice high space.

I guess I'm another one in the "non-believer, but I really like the buildings" camp. As well as the interesting architecture, I find churches to be nice places for a bit of a sit down and a think (which I suppose, is one of their chief design goals) - I'm also rather fond of the ceramics gallery in Bristol Museum as well for the same purpose - probably because it's not very interesting so no one ever visits it ;)

The Void - - Parent

I've been going to #altern8 for 8 years, and that's never happened in my time. You must have a long memory. :)

Little Paul - - Parent

Well I've not been a regular since I moved house 7 years ago...

The usual excuse was always that the hall was occupied for a show/panto, perhaps they're just not putting on as many of those as they used to :)

The Void - - Parent

Oh, they still do that, they just don't offer us an alternative. We either go down the pub instead, or just don't bother. :) #lazyjuggler

Richard Loxley - - Parent

The last time they moved us into the church was when they re-decorated the hall, and it took several weeks to do so they moved all the evening events. At a rough guess I think that was late 1990s.

 

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