You may or may not know that you can double click on a message to mark it as read/unread. I've known since the beginning that this breaks double clicking to select a word, but I've just put up with it.
This evening though I've had a play & come up with a system that toggles the read status using a long click/tap which I'd like to use instead of the double click.
I've made up this test page with 6 different messages set to toggle at different time intervals. Please have a play with toggling messages, try clicking & dragging & double clicking to select text, click the links etc.
What's your preferred setting? Any other thoughts let me know.
Personally I'd be happy with 0.5 or 0.75 seconds, but would like to know what others think.
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Mike Moore - - Parent #
Tried the test page, I like the feel of held clicks much better than double clicks. All hail the the God Emperor.
I use and like double click to MaR/U, would both options be independently opt-in/out-able?
Ideally not, I'd much rather run one system to keep the code as lean as possible. However, this is certainly not out of the question hence this thread to get more feedback.
what about mobile? I couldn't tell the difference between the test messages with an iPad.
How do you mean? The only difference between the messages is the length of time required to activate the toggle (which toggles the background colour between grey & green the same as on Small talk). Are you saying that you can't tell the difference between the first one that changes after 0.25 seconds & the last one that changes after 1.5 seconds? Or are the messages not toggling at all on the iPad?
Fwiw, neither double nor long click methods work on my phone (chrome, Android KitKat).
Little Paul - - Parent #
On my phone, double tap zooms the screen to the size of the element I've tapped, and I wouldn't want anything to override that behaviour as it's useful.
Ditto and ditto. And the long press is essential for both scrolling and right clicking, so I'm glad that doesn't work either.
lukeburrage - - Parent #
Long pressing is how to select text on my touch screen devices. Please don't fuck that up. And the double-click to resize and zoom is also great, so don't break that either. Thanks!
Interesting, well if double clicking is not presently broken then your phones are overriding the behaviour so nothing to worry about.
This is going to be an interesting one to fix.
Daniel Simu - - Parent #
I find it very hard to keep my mouse perfectly still immediately after clicking. Therefore even the 0.25 one is hard to trigger for me...
Double click worked fine.. If you are going to change, definitely 0.25!
Seriously? I did have a comedy 60 second option which I had no problem activating. Are you using a mouse, trackpad or touchscreen?
Daniel Simu - - Parent #
Normal mouse. The trick seems to be that I have to rest my mouse on the trigger area before I go and click, then it is not so hard. However, most of the time my mouse is just somewhere on the screen, and I click as soon as I reach the button, a behaviour I've trained since the day I started using computers, to get efficient at clicking buttons...
When I play with it and don't make too much of an effort, at least 1 out of 4 times I don't get the thing to work. Knowing that I need to be very still helped me with it, the first time I tried (before my post) I was very confused because I did not understand why it wasn't working... :/
While you are at it, can you move the "mark thread as read" somehow so it doesn't come up in the same place as "mark as read"? I didn't know about the double click option (how would I except by accidentally discovering it?) and I kept accidentally clicking "mark thread as read" in the first post of a thread instead of "mark as read". It very much annoyed me.
I actually just found out about the double click thing yesterday - selecting text has never caused issue with me before.
So... I say either keep it the same or do a very short time period. .5 or .75 like you suggested seems fine.
I've always used the double click to mark posts as read/unread as it's so quick. The 0.75 version is too long for me so I'd say 0.25 (by preference) or 0.5.
Cedric Lackpot - - Parent #
Voted for something or other; would rather have voted for "don't even think about trying to do two things with one method".
The Edge is fairly profligate with screen space, so even a one character post occupies quite a large box - put a square box within it (so it's a nice big target) on the right hand side, containing a tick or a cross which toggles between mark as read/unread on a single click, and you should be able to solve all the problems with ambiguous controls, and with uncooperative tablet and smartphone OSes.
As far as I'm aware I'm only trying to do one thing with one method. Unless you meant it the other way around, in which case I'm not, I originally intended to replace the double click functionality with the long click functionality. Or I suppose you could be referring to the overlap between Edge functions & OS functions.
It has quickly become apparent that every option is going to be broken for someone.
Oh well, I see another bloody set of options in the near future!
I originally felt nauseous at the thought of a big button in each post, I think that would ruin the feel of Small talk, but if I'm going to be adding options anyway it won't be a problem.
Danny Colyer - - Parent #
0.25s is good. 0.5s is perhaps better. Anything over 0.5s is too long IMO.
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I went to check the original post in this thread to see what the question these results were the answer to, but now it only says:This is a competition thread which ran from 8th Apr 2015 to 15th Apr 2015. View results.
It might be better if the original post was preserved, I think there originally was a question.
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