If it's a bit quiet today that may be because everyone is at BBU 2013, Kinetic Fire 2013, Forchheim Juggling Convention, Ann Arbor Juggling Arts Festival, 3rd Annual Sturtevant Camp Juggling Festival, Bibasse, Schokon 3, ŻeLKa, 27e Nederlandse Acrobatiekfestival or Fiesta dei Folli.
I never thought I'd post this, but does anyone have any recommendations for "interesting" 3 ball siteswaps beyond the obvious 441,531,423 (with active 2's) and 45141
Also possibly interested in some fairly straight forward 4 ball siteswaps - but that might be getting a bit keen...
# by Little Paul, 2012-06-12 14:08 BST
There's a good list of siteswaps by Matt Hall. I believe they're ones he's picked out himself as being "interesting". The list is quite long but it reduces a lot if you don't like 0's for example. Also, the italics or underlined ones are "particularly interesting". There are several with consecutive 1's, which I always take to mean passing a ball around your body.
Oooo.... That looks like an interesting list. I think I shall throw them into a simulator and see which I like.
It does indeed look like an interesting list. I'll have to pick a couple out of the list to play with I think.
# by Little Paul, 2012-06-12 16:48 BST Parent
If I can take a slight tangent, but how does one learn to juggle siteswaps? Just go for it or is there a sensible, boring way that works better?
I think just go for it in small sections. Try the first few throws until you can do that without thinking, then try a few more. Keep adding a few more throws and by the time you get to around 2 or 3 cycles it should click if it's not too hard. The more siteswaps you learn the quicker you can learn them. Give Ben Beever a complex 5 ball period 5 siteswap that he hasn't done before and he will normally do it on his first go.
He was taking requests at Manchester JC last year for 5 ball siteswaps to do with glowballs, but he appeared not to have heard my suggestion of e01.
I think it's the lateness of the hour, but I read that as "siteswaps to do with gerbils".
Me neither. I might have to try that now. I guess when you're generating lists of 5 ball siteswaps you don't normally have the maximum throw height set that high.
I was initially worried that your account had been hacked but investigation didn't show anything untoward had happened.
Any particular reason you're going down the siteswap route? You are possibly the last juggler I'd expect to be interested in siteswaps.
For me there are only 2 interesting vanilla siteswaps with 3 balls: 3 & 60. I do a lot of stuff with 441, 531, 504 in particular but I only find them interesting because of the different throws, catches & patterns I fit around them. With 3 balls the rhythm is far too easy to kludge into shape by just holding for longer, whereas 4+ balls accurately getting all the throw heights in proportion is a real challenge.
No one has mentioned sync siteswaps, I assume you can do the box & shower in both directions if so (6,2x)(2x,2x)(2x,6)(2x,2x) is nice, especially with the 6s thrown at a traditional 4 ball height.
...I call that siteswap the swap box. http://www.twjc.co.uk/tut017.html & http://www.twjc.co.uk/tut040.html should be helpful.
I noticed Falco's 'swaps'.. the balls are accelerating/travelling very fast, almost elastic like. When I first started practising them the pattern was tall and narrow and the power came from my wrists. If, like me, you prefer the pattern to be wide and flat with minimal movement of arms/hands the wrists are not enough (not for me anyway) the power needs to be 'compressed'. I found that to throw the swaps with enough force so as not to sag, the power started to come from much of my upper body - mostly upper arms but I can feel it in my shoulders, chest and stomach too. It's an interesting technique and exercise, far more physically strenuous than it looks.
# by pumpkineater23, 2012-06-14 13:31 BST Parent
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