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Another new juggler question:
I'm currently working on:
1) One ball contact juggling
2) multiball contact juggling
3) toss juggling balls
4) toss juggling clubs
I really have a long way with clubs and only dedicate 2 days of practice a week to them, about an hour each. I'm wondering if I'm biting off too much and I should just continue to get better at balls right now. I find that very challenging and harder than the contact juggling I'm doing.
So I guess my question is "Am I too spread out to progress?" and "When should one start exploring clubs?" and "Is it fine to NEVER pick up clubs or do you think it is good cross training for the other props?"
Are you enjoying juggling clubs?
No? Then it's fine to stop!
Yes? Then why would you want to stop?
I think it's always a good idea to get at least a solid base with 3 clubs as a beginner - because club passing is one of the most enjoyable things you can do with other jugglers!
But if you're not having fun, and find something else more fun instead ... do the thing which is fun!
I like the idea of being good at clubs, but I'm pretty frustrated, I find it very difficult. Maybe finding a juggling club would help
I suggest you try to learn it if you like the idea of it. Break it down. Learn 3 balls very solid first, at varying heights. Learn 1 club single spin with both hands. Practice low fast throws, high floaty throws and everything in-between. Hold the club near the top of the handle, not at the end. Then work on 2 throws with 2 clubs. Then do the same 2 throws starting with 3 clubs in the hands to learn the 2 clubs in one hand grip. Then progressively add extra throws.
I think my concern would be that you said you devote two 1 hour sessions to clubs per week.
Structured practice can be good for many things, but if you're getting frustrated during that hour session you'll stop progressing. So if you find yourself getting worked up, take a break, have something to drink or a snack, switch to another skill - then come back to club juggling later in the session.
Based on what you've said recently about your skill level - I'd suggest you mix all the skills into a single practice session. Vary it and you'll keep your interest up, keep your interest up and you'll progress.
Play is just as important as practice!
Also yes. You absolutely should find a juggling club. Hanging out with other jugglers is hugely beneficial at all skill levels, but especially so for beginners :)
Would you all say there are any 3 ball requirements before starting clubs? I have a long way to go with 3 balls but currently working on factory and backcrosses, I know mills mess, windmill, box, shower, and other basic patterns, I've started doing simple fountain with 4 balls.
I couldn't do anything but a regular 3b cascade when I started with clubs.
In the beginning I always learned a trick with balls before learning the same trick with clubs, but not anymore. Now I juggle clubs much more than balls, so I am actually better at most tricks with clubs. My 4 clubs fountain is better than my 4 balls fountain (more solid and higher personal record).
I could ask almost the opposite of your clubs question: Should I keep practicing ball juggling too, or is it OK to only do clubs? I seriously consider to skip the 5 ball cascade and 4 ball siteswaps and just learn it with clubs... It seems like a waste of juggling time to do balls when I really just want to get better at club juggling. I mean, except when I don't have my clubs close or when I occasionally just feel like doing some ball juggling.
> Would you all say there are any 3 ball requirements before starting clubs?
There are no hard and fast prerequisites. Whilst proficiency with balls is all but certain to be a considerable help, lack of ball juggling is not a barrier to club juggling.
Bend your knees and go for it.
Vipa clubs, photo enclosed - David Cain take note!
In a recent thread I mentioned my old set of Vipa clubs and also a set of miniature hand-made cork clubs. Unfortunately I have yet to uncover the homebrew cork clubs but I've found the Vipas.
There were one or two people asking whether they are the modular sort that Vipa produced briefly. Frustratingly, I don't know! The handles of all three rotate reasonably freely against the body but I am unable to discover any method of separating the two parts, and I also notice that the bulb-end screw rotates with the handle so I guess the entire handle and dowel assembly is moving as one.
The clubs are in pretty good shape considering they are likely over twenty years old, they feel surprisingly well-built and rattle-free, they are pleasant to juggle, and in my opinion they are quite nose-heavy.
Vipa clubs - OneDrive link so it won't preview, sorry.
Those brought some long rested neurons back to life. I'd forgotten about the ribbed/transparent handles.
As far as I can remember, those aren't the modular system.
I vaguely recall the floating dowel assembly being a "selling point" as it removes the staple that joins the handle/body to the dowel which is historically a weak point for clubs.
I haven't managed to turn up any advertising material or catalogues that mention them - but the most likely suspects are all in a box of stuff that I lost several house moves ago.
For those who are planning to trek all the way to El Paso, Texas for IJA 2016 in a few weeks, I've got several workshop slots left. It's a good chance to practice your presenting skills, share your skills with the community, and make some friends.
If you're interested, please fill out the signup form here: http://ija.juggler.org/ -- Thanks!
Is there a workshop schedule out. I want to find out when you have the Juggling History Panel scheduled. Thanks.
And what are the chances of someone recording it? (video or audio, I'm not fussy!)
BTW I'm sat in the garden tonight, with a beer and my copy of The Blue Book... and a rather engaging read it is too!
It will be a panel of juggling historians and enthusiasts taking questions about juggling history and guiding a discussion of the subject. I expect at least myself, Alan Howard, Scott Cain, and Arthur Lewbel to be on the panel, with one or two others to join the panel. All are welcome to be part of the event. I might as well tease this now, but a Juggling History Convention is in the works for late 2017. Information will be forthcoming later this year! It will be in the USA, but we're really hoping a group from Europe will make it over for it. We'll try our best to make it worth the trip! Regarding the IJA Panel, I'll try to record it.
Hi David - I've got it scheduled for 3pm on Tuesday. I'll be sending out a link to the full schedule in the next day or two.
That's not a good time, as at least half of the panel will be involved in x-juggling at that time. Any chance of moving us to 3pm on Wednesday or Thursday?
I didn't know him very well, just on nodding terms really. He once or twice came to #Altern8. Crap way to go. Be careful out there, folks.
I just picked that up on the interwebs a few minutes ago. Terrible news, and one wonders if there is more to it than meets the eye.
I hung out with Ashton a bit years ago at Bristol, then watched him grow and get fit as he attended Circomedia. He was perhaps the kind of character of whom one might not be so surprised by such a happenstance, but that really, really sucks as a bad end to a short life, both for him and his poor family.
From what I've heard, it sounds accidental. Possibly a misjudged fire breathe that went wrong (although that appears to be pure conjecture, take it with a pinch of the proverbial)
It's a nasty way to go, and a terrible thing for his friends and family to be dealing with.
Play safe out there people...
Someone posted a different story on Facebook that I don't want to repeat yet because I find it hard to believe.
Did he perform in BYJOTY one year? I remember the name but not the face.
He performed in BYJotY in 2011 in Nottingham. He seemed like a nice chap from the interaction I had with him during that period.
I also heard a different story on Facebook. From the evidence I've read in the news it seems consistent, but I'm not going to perpetuate rumour. I'm just shocked and sad right now.
Clubs that you currently own?
I can only juggle four clubs but I own sixteen:
- 3 flare one piece super spins ( glow in the dark ) these were the clubs I learnt with years and years ago
- 4 yellow juggle dreams with silver wrapped handles, which are now falling apart as they were used to learn four clubs
- 3 green mr babche
- 6 white and black Henry delphins which i use for everything now and are awesome for passing.
Ps. anyone going to Glastonbury? Il be there with my clubs so bring yours.
I own at least 250-300 clubs, including at least 150 different types.
I can juggle 4 clubs, I can pass 7 with another passer who is at about the same level as me.
I own 11 clubs:
- My first clubs, I think they are MrBabache, has some cracks in the handles that make them a bit uncomfortable to juggle. Not using them any more.
- 3 blue Delphins, I use them for indoor juggling at home (so I don't need to un-pack my juggling bag) and when I want to bring extra clubs for passing or as spares.
- 5 purple Delphins, my main clubs right now. They need some repairs soon, the rubber top fell off from one recently, one feels a bit unstable (like if the screws were loose bute they are not) and one more was close to losing the rubber top this weekend. Might have to let Henry's take care of them at EJC, maybe juggle mixed purple and blue clubs until then.
I've downsized somewhat, and I think I'm currently down to:
- 7 delphins
- 6 freaks acrobats
- 3 beard circus specials
- 5ish very broken renegade 95's which I promised Colin E I would fix and then pass on to a deserving cause about 8 years ago
Technically I do still own at least 3 fire torches and "some" knives, but I have no idea where they are. I last saw them in my parents garage.
I'm considering selling the delphins to fund the purchase of a smaller number of clubs that are closer to my taste.
They're white body/white handle, barely used, they have good heritage (I bought them off Jon Udry a few years back) - I'll probably take them all to Crawley, if anyone wants them I'll do them for offers around £60 the set.
Hahaha, too feckin' many :-
Orinoco, is there a secret code for posts in pissing contest mode?
Spotlight Flares... were those the ones that you inserted a big sparkler into a metal cage body? Awesomeness!
Weren't the sparkler ones by Henry's?
I really hope he didn't mean Beard Flares, though they did deserve the "<shudder>"
The sparkler ones are indeed Henry's
What are Vipas? I'd love to see pics of the hand-built cork, wood, and fabric mini clubs.
Vipa was a small juggling manufacturer set up by H (who founded Beard) after he quit/left/was-forced-out-of (delete depending on whose story you believe the most) Beard.
See http://www.juggling.org/bin/news2html/1999/01/21-102448 (and other articles in that thread)
Archive.org doesn't have much of their website, but what it does have says this:
Vipa Launch 3 World Firsts!
At the 12th British Juggling Convention in Durham, Vipa were proud to annouce three world firsts in the Juggling industry.
The first modular club system, which allows the juggler to have exactly the weight and spin they need.
The first variable spin devilstick
The first juggling knife with the weight and spin of a club
I don't know what Mr Lackpot has, but I would imagine it's most likely to be the knives as I don't think anyone actually bought any of the modular clubs.
NB This is a different modular club system to the Passe Passe one (which used threaded bits of camembert to hold the bits together)
If my memory of the rumours is correct then Vipa was nominally set up run by Loz (H's son) as there was some kind of clause somewhere preventing H from competing directly with Beard for some time after he left.
The Vipas were part of a job lot of assorted juggling and other stuff I mistakenly bought off eBay whilst squiffy one night. They are non-modular European-style clubs of rather good construction and still in very good condition. At least I think they are Vipas, I had no idea whatsoever until I showed them to Void who came to that conclusion after a little head scratching.
If I ever find the time I'll dig the Vipas out along with the cork specials and provide David with a much-needed hit of clubpr0n.
Details of Michael Pearse's funeral are being shared around Facebook. I'm not sure whether the invitation for after the service extends to everyone because I can imagine the family might be a bit overwhelmed, but I'm sure condolences & donations to Michael's requested charities will be very welcome.
A service to celebrate the life of Michael Pearse (Pearse Halpenny)will take place at the Surrey and Sussex Crematorium on Wednesday 4th May at 2.15 pm. The family welcome everyone to join them after the service for light refreshments at a nearby venue. In lieu of Flowers it is asked a donation is made to either The Royal Marsden Cancer charity or St Christopher’s Hospice. These can be made at the service or via Ebbutt's Funeral Services
Crap. Long time coming, but crap all the same.
Was it Crawley the first he appeared at? Or possibly the second? Would've been around '95 with Pearse performing yo-yos and cigar boxes IIRC. I think that he and I were also at the street theatre event in Golden Square at about that time.
Is it too early to start talking about Bungay? I've got the croquet to find, plants to pot up for swapping, some EJC holes in the tent floor to repair and some new (to Bungay) props to bring... #BBU2016
14:52 seems like a reasonable time to talk about Bungay. Not too early in the morning.
Bit of a radical departure, but we're having an official Fight Night this year. Wednesday. With a potential extra 12 points, which Ewano has the details on.
I suppose I should fix my kite spar soon, too.
It all reminds me of the year the WJF sent all those flyers and we all did weights and trained our patterns and everything.
I found my copy of that flyer (signed by Jason Garfield!) the other day. It did raise a smile.
Well it's all official and everything..
While at the BJC Luke agreed to an extra 12 points for the event, but you know how he backtracks later on when he realises he's agreed to something I suggested. Turns out that this extra 12 points would mean he needs to rewrite the Fight Night website - or some such excuse. I'm sure though that he'll be along some time soon to explain how he plans to honour the terms he agreed with us..
On a side note, we should probably have a look at some more of the rules to see how we can
subvert his system some more move to a 350/500 tournament in the future..
I just looked at the code and data and stuff and it seems like giving the winner 12 extra points is quite easy. What will take more work is for the tournament to be listed as a "262 level tournament" in other places on the website, either in advance or afterwards. And I'm not going to do that extra work.
I've added a note to the Bungay 2016 page about the extra points and prize on offer: http://fightnightcombat.com/tournament-Bungay-2016.html
(And adding that note didn't work the first time, and I found the error that caused a bug I first noticed months ago but didn't know where it came from, so thanks I guess.)
Fight night? I'm appalled. This goes against the whole love and peace, non-competitive hippy ethos with which BBU was originally conceived.
In other news, Mike and I have plans and materials to make the biggest trebuchet ever seen at a juggling convention. Hopefully this one will be able to completely destroy Ewans tent from my position at the far corner of the buttercup meadow. Hope your ballista plans are well advanced Geordy boy.
Also farmer Paul has been sorting through Sue's extensive book collection and I now have a stack of quiz books as tall as LP.
I was thinking of mastermind this year but no reason we can't have a different one each day. Anyone who suggests deal or no deal will quickly become my new trebuchet target though.
How about we make fight night into a banoffee pie fight instead of club juggling? That'd be more in the Bungay spirit :-)
I will be at Bungay this year! It might have something to do with it taking a week for a new passport application and pickup, and needing somewhere to stay in the UK for a week.
but I'll make a note to pack plenty of gin and a slightly-too-small juggling ring just incase we can "collect the set"
I'm really looking forward to Bungay this year, even though we're having to leave early on the Saturday.
The sheep vacated the field two weeks ago and the grass is growing like mad.
The buttercup forecast is very good as we have not had the shortage of rain that we have had in the last few years and the current heatwave could make it a vintage year. Daisies and dandelions are in abundance too.
Morning chorus has been extremely loud and starts around 5am at the moment.
Night time owl noise is high as the Tawny's argue over territory.
Barn owls have been hunting during the day to feed their new offspring. I damn near killed one last week as it flew right in front of me on the road up to the farm. I had to emergency brake and missed it by under a foot (30cm).
Poker forecast is very high. Hairy is definitely coming and hasn't played for over a year so is itching for a game. Both Dan the hats are coming too. Not sure what happens when they are both in the same room. Do they cancel each other out? Is it like hatter and anti-hatter?
We had 3 of them at Bristol one year! I think Original has been Dan The Hatless for some years now, so we're probably all safe.
Interesting... Given that one of them is known for a plural number of hats perhaps we should go with "dans the hats" just to be on the safe side?
There *is* a proper nomenclature you know. Dan The Original Hat (because he always wore a hat, nothing to do with juggling IIRC). T'other is Dan the Exeter Hat (because that's where he hails from). Any other Dan the Hats will have to wait their turn.
Glad to hear they're both coming, as is Hairy! I watched this rather wonderful video again today and enjoyed it so much I had to spaff it all over Faceberk.
Terrific vid - I got a great vicarious experience of this fabled gathering.
Love the music choice - it lifts the (already excellent) visuals to a level that's simply majestic. Brian Wilson, continuing to make wonderful music.
I am coming to the UK to get a new passport, but I have a problem. I need a countersigning person who lives in the UK, is in the UK, has a passport, has known me for 2 years, is not related to me and either "work in (or be retired from) a recognised profession" or is "a person of good standing in their community".
But as I've lived in Germany for 10 years, most people I know in the UK are jugglers and other performer types. Turns out "Professional Juggler" isn't on the list of "Accepted occupations for countersignatories": https://www.gov.uk/countersigning-passport-applications/accepted-occupations-for-countersignatories
I'm looking elsewhere, but is anyone going to be at Bungay on the first Monday who could help me out? All you need to do is sign the back of a photo and a form. And you have to know your passport number. Let me know if you can be my standby! Thanks!
When I registered as an overseas voter, I had to find a witness to sign my form. That person had to be another British citizen, but one who was not resident in the UK. But not someone of particular standing. So you'd have done, but the masses of impressive sounding people who could have done it for me at the Lestival I happened to go to around that time were the useless type of British citizen who actually lived in Britain!
That sounds bizarre. I think I needed my NI number, and they wanted the address at which I was last on the electoral role. I didn't think that I had to do much more than that.
I think perhaps it's different now. I've managed to find something like the instructions I had at the time on this (clearly not official) page: http://findlaw.co.uk/law/government/constitutional_law/voting_and_elections/8676.html but not from an official source.
I just changed my address and made sure I was registered to vote abroad, and I only needed my NI number. No countersignature needed this time.
Looking at that list of occupations, I think there are candidates for:
- accountant (I know fak used to do that sort of thing, but I don't know how qualified she was or needs to be)
- chairman/director of limited company - I think Charlie can tick that box
- director/manager/personnel officer of a VAT-registered company - Charlie can definitely tick that box
- engineer - with professional qualifications - I'd be surprised if we can't scrounge up one of those
- manager/personnel officer of a limited company - Charlie again?
- teacher, lecturer - Will Dee be around on the Monday? Most of the teachers who turn up tend to be second-weekenders so wouldn't be any use to you
Your countersignatory can’t:
- work for HM Passport Office
- be a doctor, unless they state that they know you well (eg good friend) and that they recognise you easily from your photo
The medical professionals who tend to turn up (Dr Alice, Helen S etc) could certainly state they know you well.
Mentioning Dee reminded me that I got all confused when I heard her on the "more or less" podcast the other week, as I don't think I've ever heard her full name before.
Looking at the show notes, I think http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/redir/version/2.0/mediaset/audio-nondrm-download/proto/http/vpid/p03rw8l6.mp3
is the episode I spotted her on
I am on the list of approved professions, but can't make Bungay this year; although for the first time in ages it's not because I have student vivas during the middle of it. This time, it's because I'm under a super-tight deadline to get all of the marks back in (I'm module leader for the project, so have to do all the admin) before I fly to the US for a family wedding [flying out during Bungay week].
I enjoyed my trip into BBC Bristol to do the recording - the calculations involved weren't difficult, but asking the right question and inserting the appropriate terms and conditions on the calculations was difficult. One of my aunts didn't recognise my voice [I consider that to be what I'm going to call my "Radio 4" voice, a lot slower than my usual way of speaking]. I was recruited to do that as part of my involvement in the Royal Statistical Society [and you were right with the show - my piece was on the chance of receiving the equivalent of a jury summons in Scotland]
I've been meaning to go back and listen to this again as, on first listen, I got the impression that they used your name surprisingly often for a short article.
Maybe it's just because your full name (with the honorific) sounds incongruous to me. Or maybe they're proud of pronouncing it correctly and wanted to make the most of it! If only we knew someone with the skills to develop some kind of index of radio article naming frequency ;o)
I enjoyed your section and I bookmarked the show. I like numbers and the only thing I know close to this in the US is fivethirtyeight.com I have also bookmarked Significance magazine.
Thanks, in case anyone is interested in what was the "behind the scenes", I've written about it in my blog.
Significance magazine is a good shout for those interested in applications of statistics [for those of you who are maths teachers in the UK or Ireland, you can get a free e-Teacher membership of the Royal Statistical Society, which happens to included free subscription to Significance magazine though an app - this gives more articles than only those that appear on the statslife.org.uk website]
There is currently a series called "ask a statistician" series in Significance, so if anyone has any curious question that may spark something similar to my calculations needed for the question about jury duty. An example of a recent question is here: https://www.statslife.org.uk/social-sciences/2735-ask-a-statistician-population
I'm sure that over the course of Bungay you may be able to come up with some interesting questions!
I went through the same process in 2007 and went to the Bristol convention while waiting the week for my passport to be delivered. Richard Loxley was a director of a limited company at the time and did it for me then. :)
I'm an engineer as well but never joined the IEEE or anything so don't have 'professional qualifications' whatever that means. Happy to sign Luke!
Great! Between you and others on LP's list, I'm sure we can make it work. As long as you have your passport number we can do it all on Monday afternoon/evening.
Is Mikey willing to take payment in the form of complimentary fight night points?
I was going to suggest that if one point = one slice of banoffee pie, that would be way more valuable to most people!
Under a week to go! If there was any doubt before, I think we can definitely start talking about Bungay now.
Um... Still haven"t fixed my kite from 2 years ago. Or was it 3? Will have to dig out my boomerang at least. Reckon I'll bring my clubs this year too.
I haven't managed to get around to editing the video I shot last year - how long can I get away with that and still call it a BBU 2015 video?
I'm definitely bringing my rola bola.
After a brief play on one at the BJC I was inspired to dig mine out of the loft to take to Appleby on Saturday. And I went from never-tried-the-pipe-parallel-to-the-board to over-a-minute-of-double-rollers in an afternoon. I haven't been this excited about a learning curve for years!
I only fell in an undignified heap once, and I didn't hurt myself too badly :o)
Just in case anyone thinks it might be useful, I thought I'd just mention that there's a PDF available of an A3 OS map, roughly centred on Hulver Farm available from here: http://paulseward.com/downloads/BBU_Map.pdf
I made it for planning some new routes for me to run as I find that sort of thing easier to do on paper than I do on a screen, especially given how sketchy some of the online map data is for the area.
This desire for mapping the area was prompted by me mapping the run I've been doing the last couple of years which I thought was "just shy of 10Km" and found it's more like "just shy of 9Km" and needing to find an extra Km of footpaths :)
Anyone got a collection of the Fliktriks1 books? Fancy recording a flick through & putting it online? I had a copy of Georgian Shuffle/Eating the Apple but I can't seem to find it any where.
1 Much loved flick books illustrated by Martin Bedford from the early 90s for those that don't know.
Fliktricks are on my list of "things I really wish I'd kept, and collected"
So while I can't help, I would be interested in seeing said flick-through
Last I heard Martin Bedford is still active in graphic design in some way ... but I can't for the life of me remember when I heard that!
I'm pretty sure Richard Gillett will have a full set, or if not could get a set from Martin, and I'd guess Mike Armstrong and Charlie Holland might well have them as well. Plus a few other now-superannuated candidates - for instance Charlie Dancey, Ben Cornish, Tarim, various Oddballs, and so on.
I now have vague memories of them being republished a couple of years back
It looks like serious juggling in the states might still have them http://www.seriousjuggling.com/juggling-books.htm
I had never heard of these, what a fun idea! I was once recorded juggling some oranges for 3 seconds in a flick through book, but I think I threw it away... But to use it to explain tricks... why not recreate some?
About 4/5 months ago (Random) Mike Wilkinson came to Milton Keynes juggling club with lots and lots of FlikTrik books in really good condition along with lots of copies of The Catch. He gave anyone who wanted them the magazines but kept the FlikTriks and was planning on seeing if he could sell them. He can be contacted via storychairarts(at)gmail(dot)com or via his website randommike.com
Hahahahaha! Now that you mention it I vaguely knew that too!
Can you bring them along on Tuesday? Archie has a decent phone camera, I'm sure we can bully him into doing technical things like pointing it in the right direction & pressing record. The light in the kitchen is a lot better than the hall so we can set up a studio in there. We'll have to have a fat finger comparison to see whose thumbs will obscure the pages the least.
Hey everybody. Just posted a video I put together for the Juggling SubReddit Community. Hope you enjoy! https://youtu.be/FzrjVyRzyoM
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