If it's a bit quiet today that may be because everyone is at BBU 2013, Me Río del Valle or London Hoop Fest.
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A jolly little cigar box routine, from North Korea.
There's nothing particularly special here, although the guy clearly knows how to work a crowd, using only a whistle. I like how it both confirms and breaks our western stereotypes of DPRK, by being rather quaint and old fashioned on the one hand, yet liberating in its clownishness on the other. It feels faintly and cosily familiar, like a half-remembered Paul Daniels routine or something.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFrJGs_yBkU
# by Cedric Lackpot, 2013-05-23 09:07 BST
Terrible 'clap in time to music' audience. I expected them to be far more synchronised.
# by pumpkineater23, 2013-05-23 14:03 BST Parent
Sweet Georgia Brown performed with three guitars and vintage tractor, because quirk. Deal with it ;-)
Feckall to do with juggling. Which is just as it should be.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1ThSi1wbqU
If the suggested videos are anything to go by tractor jazz is an actual thing.
# by Cedric Lackpot, 2013-05-23 08:18 BST
hah, great!
Thought it was this daft tractor for a moment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yHl24QynOM
That one might call for a different choice of song though.
Akihiro Yanai - truly awesome contact routine from Japan's JJF 2012.
Apologies if it's glasscock, but you have to admit it's still mindbogglingly great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-veNIp9dBL4
# by Cedric Lackpot, 2013-05-11 00:54 BST
Not that amazing, he's from Japan and all Japanese can do this.
Humor aside, this is a fantastic routine! I don't do contact but there's just something about watching it that is so peaceful. Thanks for sharing!
I love the sounds the audience make. There's nothing quite like the incredulous nervous laughter of a room of jugglers.
Just fantastic.
Thanks for posting that. Sadie, you're right, those noises are great, and completely appropriate for that routine!
That was great! Really *really* nice tricks do e really well. Loved the 2ball section. I only spotted two drops, but they were so well handled I could easily have missed them :)
# by Little Paul, 2013-05-12 07:13 BST Parent
He turned up to Turbo Fest this year, almost completely buy surprise. He first contacted us to be in the show, but we were already full (and then some!). Then at the fest, he just arrived! He paid his own way from Japan, just to come and see it, and ended up doing something on renegade which had EVERYONE asking "was that the guy from YouTube".
Fun times.
I contacted him before asking if we were full actually :3
Sometimes errors pay off...
I really want to make it to turbo at some point. It's one of the few fests I'd be willing to fly half way round the planet for. (if doing so wasn't so expensive;)
# by Little Paul, 2013-05-13 12:11 BST Parent
I had no idea what glasscock meant, never seen the photo until just now.
# by pumpkineater23, 2013-05-14 11:05 BST Parent
It was arguably a bit lazy of me to use the term without context, but so many Edgizens also read b3ta that it was safe to assume that most people would understand it. I'm glad to have introduced you to the term!
# by Cedric Lackpot, 2013-05-14 12:13 BST Parent
I think the number of b3tans on The Edge is probably fairly small in proportion to the total number of users (although some of the more vocal posters are also b3tans)
For anyone still unclear about the meaning of "glasscock" there's a definition here: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=glasscock which has reminded me how much fun it is to muck about on urbandictionary... there goes the rest of my afternoon!
# by Little Paul, 2013-05-14 15:41 BST Parent
Chilli & Fly - Russian cradle routine.
A nice little routine found at /r/juggling. I am in complete awe of the strength and stamina of the catcher - that looks incredibly strenuous.
# by Cedric Lackpot, 2013-05-09 15:01 BST
So I'm thinking of getting a set of silicones.
I was recommended http://www.siliconeballs.com/ does anyone have experience with them? They're really cheap which is great but I'm not sure if the quality is going to be as good as the ones from other retailers...
Also, what size would people recommend? I currently have ~63mm G-force balls bu am thinking maybe a size or two smaller as I've been doing a lot of numbers stuff (8-10 balls).
58mm seems like it might be too small though, has anyone used 58mm bounce balls?
As far as I can tell, siliconeballs.com appears to be Dave Spotlight - and I wouldn't buy silicones from anyone else.
What he doesn't know about silicones isn't worth knowing.
# by Little Paul, 2013-05-04 09:44 BST Parent
Cool, thanks for the reply. I was slightly suspicious as they're cheaper than the G-force ones I got (though admittedly the G-force ones had a high price markup). Anyway it's good to know that it's someone that people have heard of that's running it.
I say "as far as I can tell" - I'm putting a lot of trust in what the site claims - I notice that they're significantly cheaper than jugglestore (which is *definitely* Dave) although they do mention jugglestore/spotlight everywhere.
Does anyone else know for sure?
# by Little Paul, 2013-05-04 10:16 BST Parent
It's linked to the facebook profile of David Marchant (but it has davidspotlight in the url so I assume it's the same person). Anyway, we'll see what others say...
In which case they're a bloody bargain at those prices!
# by Little Paul, 2013-05-04 14:08 BST Parent
The G-force balls are compressed rubber rather than silicone so I'm really surprised they were more expensive. Where did you buy them from?
I'm sure you've already tried silicones given the level that you are practising at but just in case you haven't you'll probably find that the compressed rubber balls have a higher return than silicones. Silicones are *not* the best ball in terms of bounce. For me their major selling point is their consistency, wonderful feel & their excellent long lasting (providing you look after them) visual appearance.
I had a set of 2.5 inch silicones a few years ago which I used mostly for toss juggling. I ended up selling them on. While I agree that they are absolutely the best type of juggling ball money can buy I also think they are over-rated & not worth the price unless you are a performer.
Yeah, I got the G-force ones from JuggleArt in Melbourne, Australia and because they have to import them all and don't sell a large amount of them, they tend to have higher prices than would be expected. However, if you get them from Play directly then they're much cheaper, but I didn't get them all at once so shipping would have made that more expensive anyway...
Yeah, I think G-force ones at least have a slightly higher bounce, but really not enough to be a big deal (at least I don't find that silicones have 'too low' a bounce). However I find that silicones do have a slightly nicer bounce however, even if it isn't as high.
But yeah, I definitely wouldn't get them just for the bounce but, even ignoring the feel and long life, they also are a bit more grippy which is useful when starting and ending high numbers and I need a new set of bounce balls anyway so instead of getting a set of G-force which won't last that long I might as well get silicones for around 1.5 times the price which will last much longer.
I'd normally agree that they're expensive enough that it might no be worth it but siliconeballs.com seems cheap enough that I think it would be.
They also have much better grip if you're doing things like adding "English" (spin) to a ball. I've never really got that to work with rubber balls (eg oddballs, which are incredibly similar to g-force balls)
Oh, and they make a lovely noise if you hold them to your ear and tap them with a fingernail :)
# by Little Paul, 2013-05-04 14:11 BST Parent
"Oh, and they make a lovely noise if you hold them to your ear and tap them with a fingernail :)"
Definitely the most important characteristic of a juggling ball :P
I don't do that much stuff with spin but that's a good point as well. I actually didn't use silicones at all when I was originally trying to add spin so I got used to the small amount that you can put on g-force balls, and then I tried it with some silicones and realised why it had never worked quite as well as it should have.
I can't believe I didn't mention the silicone ping!! Easily one of my favourite noises (a list that includes a duck's quack & a cat's purr).
So I borrowed some silicons from a friend to try out and work out what size to get, he had two types, one were the more standard type (white) and had the same bounce as my g-force ones, the others (coloured) had a significantly higher bounce which seemed strange. I also thought that while silicones were meant to bounce better than coloured ones.
However in general I've found that silicones do bounce lower, so I'm not sure what's different with these...
Not all sillies are the same when new; as they get older their properties can vary even more.
I have a large set of white Spotlight sillies of various sizes, which were given to me by David Marchant (aka Dr. Spotlight) for a workshop set. They are very much seconds since they all have blemishes which make them unsellable, but they are nevertheless made of good quality silicone. I also have a set of yellow Spotlight sillies which I bought as cosmetic seconds, i.e. visibly imperfect but they perform like a first quality ball. The weird thing is that the white ones feel significantly softer and squishier than the yellow ones, and have a noticeably poorer return ratio than the yellow ones, despite being made form the same basic material, by the same manufacturer. This seems consistent with your experience.
I am also a balloon modeller, and the difference that the various dyes make is marked. Good quality modelling balloons are made out of natural latex, with vegetable dyes added to create the basic colours, and presumably somewhat fancier dyes for various options such as metallic and neon finishes. The softest compound of all is the undyed ones, which appear milky white when uninflated, and almost completely translucent and colourless when blown up. The plain colours are the next softest; then the neons; and then the metallics. I have no idea what causes the difference but I am certain that it's the dyes that are responsible, and I wouldn't be the lest bit surprised if that sort of effect happened to sillies too.
# by Cedric Lackpot, 2013-05-10 16:57 BST Parent
Yeah, the white ones I tried also seemed a bit softer. I suppose it's just strange because I've always heard that white ones bounce slightly better due to the coloured ones having to be dyed.
Interesting, I haven't really done much with balloons so I've never really thought about the difference between different ones. That makes sense though, I'd be interested to know exactly what it is about the dyes that does it (or if it's just that the consistency changes)
The Green Eggs Report for April 2013 is now available. Last month 55 people made 480 posts containing 158 links.
6 events have new trivia: BJC 2013, Chocfest!, BJC 2012, Pauschalconvention in Braunschweig, Lünecon 2007, BKO2013.
2 events have new HLGCBS: BJC 2013, RIT Spring Juggle-In.
The first sentence of that post is missing the word "April".
No it isn't. Marvin is infallible, his word is law, he cannot err.
Apotheosis of sock-puppet robots aside, has everyone else noticed the rather healthy-looking upward trend in posting levels and numbers of links? It's taken a good few months but I'm beginning to get the hang of The Edge I think, and what seems to be the increased level and quality of traffic is a very good thing. Keep it up chaps!
# by Cedric Lackpot, 2013-05-01 11:51 BST Parent
Indeed, I'm very pleased with how things are going. We may not have the traffic of some of the Facebook groups but I think the quality here is fantastic, so thank you to everyone for contributing.
There also seems to be an upward trend of things that were working suddenly stop.
I think things are shaping up nicely, still plenty of room for growth but we wouldn't want to get too big too quickly as bubbles like that tend to burst!
Now, how do we get more people involved from here on in? :)
# by Little Paul, 2013-05-01 18:16 BST Parent
More of the same please. Just keep up the relaxed friendly chat.
I think a sudden explosion in growth would be a very bad thing for the Edge so I'd much rather keep up the slow trickle of new users coming in. The larger the deluge of people that join in the harder it is for me to adapt the site quickly enough to meet the community's needs.
Nothing to do with juggling (hurrah!) but lovely nonetheless. Juggler's cigar boxes should look like this.
# by Cedric Lackpot, 2013-04-30 22:57 BST
Lovely indeed. I think because juggling props are thrown about & generally abused they miss out on being lovingly decorated. I've seen some beautiful Indian clubs but I don't believe they were ever intended for genuine use.
This reminds me of something I wanted to ask a while ago: Norbi, any chance of some close up pics of Francis Gadbois' boxes?
I know props in general get a lot of hammer, which can make fancy decoration difficult, but in the specific instance of cigar boxes it really wouldn't be that difficult to glue printed paper or card panels in place and then lacquer them, or even to have heavy-duty stickers printed up. I really think jugglers are missing a trick by not having their cigar boxes resemble something cuboid, such as, er, cigar boxes ;-)
# by Cedric Lackpot, 2013-05-01 15:36 BST Parent
Lestival - the 6th Leicester Circus Festival!
This important message has been liberally plastered all over teh interwebs :-
Hi all,
Well, we've been been keeping ourselves very much to ourselves up until now, but Lestival VI is just one short week away. May the 4th be with you!
This year Lestival falls on May the 4th, also known as Star Wars Day. Consequently there will be free lightsabers for everyone attending. Hurrah! Please use them responsibly and try not to chop your granny in half when you get home.
As usual we have all the goodies you've come to expect - our spiffy juggling space with its stoopid high ceilings, games, traders, choons, the fantastic café, WiFi (if the venue remembers the password), and an evening show hosted by Gandini Juggling Project stalwart Jon Udry, and friends.
The ticket prices remain the same, topping out at £8 for an all-day adult ticket.
We'll be open from 10-10 and we'd love to see lots and lots of you there.
--
Jay Linn
http://leicesterjugglers.org/lestival/ - old skool baby!
# by Cedric Lackpot, 2013-04-26 19:01 BST
I'm led to believe (by Jay Linn amongst others) that this is a wonderful convention that you all wish to attend. As an added bonus I will not be there (again).
Nigel
*** UPDATE ***
Good news everybody, we've just confirmed BYJOTY 2013 winner Dave Leahy will be in the show! So if you didn't get the chance to see him rockng Pickering (I didn't!), now's your chance.
#Lestival
# by Cedric Lackpot, 2013-04-27 22:37 BST Parent
#LestivalLeicester #Lestival #Lestival5 Some Lestival pics at http://tlmb.net/galleries/Lestival2013 with an added bonus of http://tlmb.net/galleries/Lestival2012.
The Circus Model Store - an incredibly old-fashioned website flogging, well, circus models. Found on /r/circus.
I had no idea there was a market for such things, nor who the potential buyers are, but I think I'm glad they exist. The models are of circuses from the halcyon days of 20th century North American travelling circus.
# by Cedric Lackpot, 2013-04-24 11:10 BST
There seems to be a (slightly odd) group of people who are "fans of circus" in general, but who have no interest in learning any of the skills or doing anything other than read about, talk about, or watch circus acts. There are magazines for them, clubs they can join (CFA/kingpole spring to mind, but circus in the USA got much bigger than it ever did in the UK so the nostalgia scene is likely to be even bigger!) and all that stuff.
There are also a lot of people interested in model building beyond model trains, so it's not that surprising that the two interests have met. I've been to several model engineering shows over the years, and there's almost always someone with a working model of a fairground or midway. I've also seen more than one model railway/tram/bus layout with a "country fair" in the landscape, so there's another market.
What I really like about these circus models though is that all the tents have cutouts in the top. They've modelled the inside scene as well as the outside scene. you don't often see that in the model railway world.
I don't have anywhere near the patience required to model anything as detailed as this stuff, so I really admire those who do!
# by Little Paul, 2013-04-24 13:23 BST Parent
There seems to be a (slightly odd) group of people who are "fans of circus" in general, but who have no interest in learning any of the skills or doing anything other than read about, talk about, or watch circus acts.
It's odd to us certainly. But if you replace 'circus' with 'football' in that sentence it still works.
yup! Replace circus with football - and I still find people like that rather odd :)
# by Little Paul, 2013-04-30 15:32 BST Parent
Hey everyone,
I just joined in the hopes of meeting lots of great jugglers. I am not a "good" juggler but I do try hard. Currently working on learning 5. Probably sounds pathetic. I've been juggling since I was 13 (9 years ago) but only seriously started working on more than 3 and 4 just 6 weeks ago. I'm going to make this a multi topic post and just ask if there's an ideal practice time. I usually practice 5 30 - 60 minutes a day exclusively. Too much or too little?
Just browsing around the site, I spotted some familiar faces. thegoheads, Peter Bone, etc. Big fan.
Anyways, I'm glad to find a live juggling community online! Keep up the good work.
Thanks for reading,
- Nicholas
Hi Nicholas,
Welcome to The Edge. You won't be judged here on the number of balls you can juggle or not. We're in it for the fun, the friends and the enthusiasm. That said, 5 x (30-60minutes) daily (if I've read that right) sounds like quite a lot to me! Way back when I was just starting out on the juggling road, I probably did that much. (Took me about 6 months to get a semi-solid 5 ball cascade, although these days, with the wealth of resources online, people seem to get it quite a bit quicker than that). As long as you're having fun, and not over-straining your muscles, then do as much or as little practising as you enjoy.
What part of the world are you in? (I'm UK.) If you have a local club or convention, go to it! Juggling with friends is so much more fun than solo.
Cheers.
What Void said :) Welcome!
5 balls takes different people different amounts of time to "click" it'll come when it's ready - and enthusiasm trumps high numbers every time in my book :)
I think void might have misinterpreted you as "practising for 30-60 minutes, 5 times a day" (which sounds like a lot!) but I read it as you practising your 5 ball cascade for 30-60 minutes a day?
With about an hour of good varied practice a day, I'd expect you to crack it in a couple of months. A lot of people find two 30 minute sessions more productive than one 60 minute session (in a day) so you might want to try that? The most important thing is to stop before you're too knackered, frustrated, or bored!
How many catches can you get so far? The advice you get about solidifying it depends a lot on how far you're getting at the momnet!
# by Little Paul, 2013-04-23 08:28 BST Parent
Hey hello Nicholas.
As others have mentioned, bear in mind the quality of the practice as well as the quantity.
When you're practicing 3 - 5 hours a day you might find it helpful to take a few days off from time to time.
# by pumpkineater23, 2013-04-23 12:44 BST Parent
Hello & welcome!
What Void, LP & Pumkineater said :)
Plus I was going to suggest keeping a record of your progress, but I see you have already found & used the records section. If you can keep that up you may find it to be a good motivator.
Wow, I'm pleasantly surprised with the responses!
I practice 5 for 30 - 60 minutes a day, throughout the day. I can usually get 50 catches almost every time I try but my record is 211. The hardest part is having a really good practice day and then the next day being so sore I can't juggle as well. I think I'm trying to get really long runs without working on getting nice controlled patterns.
I am from New York. Upstate, not NYC. Unfortunately the closest club is 6 hours away!
Lolwhut?!? NYC is *six hours* away from upstate NY? Shome mishtake shurely!
My knowledge of 'Murica is limited but NY state isn't really so big that you can be six hours from NYC and still be in the state, is it? Or am I mistaken in thinking that the Carmine Street Jugglers still meet somewhere or other? New York City cannot possibly have no juggling clubs whatsoever ... can it?
# by Cedric Lackpot, 2013-04-23 20:32 BST Parent
NYC to Plattsburgh (to randomly pick something very northern) is about 5 hrs according to google maps (the USA is muckin huge!). However there are several juggling clubs listed on the edge as being in New York State, so depending where in the state you are there may be something nearer than nyc
# by Little Paul, 2013-04-23 20:51 BST Parent
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