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I'll be sure to bring my rubber chicken along if ever I'm in that neck of the woods.
Why oh why oh why has the world come to this?
I say we should all be very grateful that the poor police have already caught all of the big criminals and therefore have lots of spare time to speculate how they're going to not catch any clowns because they're not breaking the law.
I think this qualifies for NFN.
Urbex exploration + fisheye lens + HDR photography = cool
I love looking at urbex photos. Images of old forgotten places (often with a fairly cool history) which are rediscovered by a few kids and their camera. I've done a little bit of looking around myself, and I have found a couple nice places (more on that at the end).
One common aspect of urbex photography is the use of HDR techniques. A style which can result in some absolutely disgusting photos...but if done well can either be used to much more accurately represent the location, or to give it a stylized graphic novel kind of look.
Another thing to consider is that you'll often be in small spaces, so the use of a wide-angle or fisheye lens is pretty common too. Personally I think a well processed HDR photo, with a fisheye lens, has such a specific and interesting look, I've always wanted to take photos like the ones I find on my internet searches...
THEN the other day, I was cycling to the shopping center with a friend, and on the other side of a field we noticed an old grey building which was covered in foliage and had no windows. We went and had a quick look, and found that all the entries had been boarded up and reboarded over numerous times. However, the bars on one of the windows had been bent in (someone was seriously motivated to get in there!), so I poked my head in and it was very intriguing. It instantly inspired me to make a little purchase, so we continued on to the shopping center and I bought myself a fisheye lens. This was followed by going home, grabbing my camera and tripod, and it was mission time!
We spent about 3 hours there. It was 1°C outside, and we were in a concrete block...it was pretty chilly, especially in the basement, but the cold was worth it. It was a very cool place to explore, a lot bigger than it looked from the outside, and also very clean...as if the floors are swept regularly, which was odd. After getting home, I did a bit of research and it was apparently an old chocolate factory. Pretty cool, although there was absolutely no evidence of this, which was sad.
A lot of photos to look through, a lot of multiple exposures to combine, and I am very happy with the results. I hope you enjoy them too.
Ladies and gentlemen, my (mostly) HDR, (mostly) fisheye, shots of the old Lammert chocolate factory in Bad Oeynhausen.
I can't believe you grafittied your name all over that place. Disgusting behaviour.
This post comes with a health warning. You might wish you hadn't read it. I certainly wish I didn't have the excuse to write it!
Some time ago at a convention, James said to me something along the lines of: 'you'd be a much better passer if you weren't so unfit'. Now I know James very well and I appreciate that it was part of his usual banter. I also agreed with him (although naturally I didn't let him know that at the time). My feeling was that it was an age thing. I thought as I get older I have to put more effort into maintaining the same level of fitness.
It turns out that the reason I am so unfit is that I'm unwell. Uk based people will know what I'm referring to if I say that I have been allocated a Macmillan nurse this week. Non uk based people: google is your friend.
The first thing I want to say is: James, please don't feel guilty for your comment, it was taken in the spirit that it was offered. Also at the time neither of us could have guessed what was to transpire.
The second thing I want to say is: James, please forgive me for sharing your comment so publicly. It helped me to express what I wanted to say with a certain narrative. I'm sorry!
So if you don't see me so often at workshops and conventions in the coming months I'll be busy fighting this. I hope some time next year something like normal service will be resumed - we'll see!
All the hugs in the world, and fingers crossed things go well for you. If there's anything we can do, just yell up.
Holy shit that sucks.
Fight it like the bastard it is.
i dont post much anymore online, but felt this was an appropiate time to say something.
get well soon Ade.
Thanks & well done for posting this. I know it can't have been easy. Get well soon.
Thanks for all the positive comments. They may seem trivial but they really help!
Some people have been surprised by my reaction to my predicament. I feel there's no point me sitting around feeling sorry for myself, that's not going to achieve anything. I need to be strong both mentally and physically to fight this. I know what's wrong with me and I've seen the pictures that confirm this. They're actually really interesting pictures. I just wish they weren't pictures of my body which are causing me such inconvenience. Despite this they are still fascinating.
The day after I was told I arranged to go for a drink with a friend. I sent him an email entitled 'oh shit!' In it I wrote something like: it turns out I haven't got a chest infection, so I'm not on antibiotics any more. I need a bloody drink! Now any one who knows me well will read significance into the appearance of that word bloody.
Clearly my subtle hints did nothing to prepare my mate Matt for the bomb I was about to drop on him. The news knocked him sideways. At the moment the most difficult thing for me is dealing with other people's reactions to my news. Anyway for ten minutes or so we sat there exchanging pretty glum conversation. As I mentioned before, I didn't go to the pub to spend the evening feeling sorry for myself. So I suggested we play a game of scrabble, but one with a gallows humour theme to it. I really took the theme seriously. I tried to play gallows humour on every turn, regardless of the score. Matt did enter into the spirit of it, but every so often his competitive urge got the better of him, so he won by a comfortable margin. There was a suggestion that there should be a gallows humour bonus of 20 points for each really good piece of gallows humour. I think if we had applied that system the score would have been much closer. I might have even won!
My favourite example of gallows humour was the seemingly innocuous word: radio. Matt attempted to play: cyto-. My immediate reaction was to be a stickler for the rules: 'that's a prefix'. However I thought it was such a good example of gallows humour that maybe I could let it pass. But Matt agreed with me and retracted it. I did allow him to offer an alternative without penalty. He came up with the very apt: cowl. A word which he later amended by adding the two letter word os at right angles to the front to create scowl. According to an online dictionary os means bone. I'm not sure if it features on the official scrabble list of two letter words. I sent a picture of the final board to my brother. He liked the word: gravy. Each to his own. Anyway it was a fun way to pass the evening. I have found that humour, however dark, is a useful coping mechanism. So do your worst!
I have been very disappointed to discover that modern technology has not made it to the MRI scanner suite (not in Sheffield anyway) and one can't yet have rotating 3D models of one's own insides.
I think it's perfectly acceptable (if you want) to ask people to have their doomy gloomy conversations in your absence as far as possible. I mean this kind of thing is always going to set people's brains going as they realise they are mortal themselves, but there's no reason you have to act impromptu therapist! If you are on beer drinking terms with any doctors, you may find they are refreshingly unsentimental on such subjects and can provide any amount of gallows humour should you require it.
Unrelatedly, surely "gravy" would be more suited to a game of mortality scrabble played by turkeys?
"I feel there's no point me sitting around feeling sorry for myself" I'm glad to hear it!
I can't remember where she first heard it but my mum is rather fond of this one:
"Only let cancer stop you doing the things it *truly* stops you from doing. Like combing your hair in the morning."
But then she's also said that it gets pretty tiring when people trot out stories about other people they know who are going through it... so yeah. Sorry about that :P
 or during which of the 4 times she's been round this loop in the last 10 years for that matter
I'm not sure if people will want to read this (you have been warned).
I have a small secondary tumour in my brain (among other places). This gives rise to a risk of fitting. As a result I am not allowed to drive for two years, and I can never drive a bus again. So this enforced layoff gives me the chance to plan for my next career :)
No more crashing into things whilst thinking of juggling patterns then? :-)
just look towards Mike Bridge for inspiration.
it must be at least ten yrs since he was given a yr to live
Mike is a gem.
I especially love that he took part in movember while having chemo. Dudes got style.
We need your brain - it keeps all of the passers in some room out of the way trying to work out if your ideas are possible! You'd better make sure that you get better or they'll be in our way again!
Take care matey, see you soon I hope.
So anyway Aidan, how's your contemporary dance piece coming along? Will it be ready for BJC?
If not, then I hope to see it later next year.
should suit Simon Cowl
Aidan that sucks balls, but at least it does explain your poor passing :)
I'll email you when I get back and we'll organise an alternative Wednesday meet for ill people, shoulder cripples and friends. Potentially involving board games and pizza.
All the best
Sorry to hear that. Hopefully by next summer you'll be back to fine form. My thoughts are with you.
All the best. Not much, but I have heard that knowing people are supporting you can help.
That really really sucks. Getting older, whilst having its advantages, generally sucks.
All the best. I am sure you will give it your best fight.
In the light of the amount of bad news in juggler-land in the last year or so, I am tempted to get some badges made up for everybody with "Fuck Entropy" on them or some similar sentiment.
I've just been pointed to http://eamonblunt.wordpress.com/ the story certainly looks familiar & contains all the gory details.
The pointer has also asked for no comments to be posted here.
How old is Aidan? Just curious.... sorry if that's somehow out of line....
Liverpool Juggling Convention
I'm considering perhaps maybe eventually possibly reviving the Liverpool convention (but this is by no means certain yet). I was hoping some of the more seasoned Edgizens might remember a thing or two about the original run of conventions. All I know so far is what is already on The Edge (i.e. it was typically in late February, and where it was typically held).
Also, if this convention was to be revived, would people be interested in attending? There aren't a great deal of conventions in the north west (Manchester, WJD), but perhaps that is due to lower demand.
I think that two conventions in such a small area of the UK is quite good. Leeds is also not far away. We have far fewer conventions in the South East considering the large number of juggling clubs.
Sorry, I can't help with regards to the Liverpool convention. I'm sure people would go if you have a good venue.
I've got fond memories of the Liverpool convention (including some very fond memories of cramming 30 people into Barnesys old flat, RC car races round the car park, pizza/chicken/bacon,cheese and mushroom sarnies/sunday dinner etc - but you're obviously not aiming to recreate those!)
I think Liverpool was reasonably unique from the point of view that the show was an impromptu affair (no booked acts, barely any PA system unless Mini had brought his amp can) and held in the basement bar of The Everyman Theater - a room with 7ft ceilings.
With everyone crammed in to the bar, and with beer and the acts being very much part of the audience it had a very special atmosphere.
Luke Burrage cramming kitchen sponges in his mouth, ben beever on his knees flashing 9 balls under that 7ft ceiling, Barnesy giving us a cheeky wave through his diabolo loop - Mini loudly telling everyone to never try to cram their bollocks into a marmite jar...
There's some footage of the 2004 show in here somewhere: http://juggling.tv/4704
So - yes. I remember the Liverpool conventions fondly. What would you like to know?
I was considering a low-budget convention, and if it was popular then perhaps a bigger one in the future. Do you think a Renegade-style show in a pub would still work? There aren't many conventions that have open shows any more. Manchester is the only one that I know of.
I was also interested in the attendance and how it compared to other conventions at the time. This would probably help with guessing how many people to budget for.
And finally, would it be worth trying to "revive" the convention (i.e. try and bring back the "essence" of the original run of Liverpool conventions), or do you think it would be better to just start afresh?
I think it is always better to start fresh, in my experience most revival efforts end in disappointment. Don't feel pressured into doing what you think is expected. If every organiser did this all festivals would be the same & quickly become stale & boring. It also puts unnecessary strain on you as the organiser. I think the pressure to meet people's preconceived ideas of what *has* to happen at a BJC for example is huge & is damaging to the organisation team.
Richard's back to basics manifesto is an excellent starting point & can either be the finishing point or you can add a few bells & whistles of your own.
Some random ramblings:
You can't guess attendance using past figures. The popularity of juggling itself goes up and down, the popularity of the clubs in your local area goes up and down separately, and you never know how much of the past attendance was due to the reputation of the organising team. I reckon you'd get a better read of attendance with a Facebook poll. Make a Facebook event, invite everybody in the world, and then assume half of the people who said Yes will come and all the people who said Maybe will stay at home.
Low-budget and grow slowly is a really great way to de-risk the whole business when you can't guess your attendance very well (and you can't).
As for the evening: if you do go for a renegade-style show, I strongly suggest priming a good number of suspects beforehand. Good renegades are usually much more carefully organised than the audience are aware of.
Without something strong going on in the evening (and renegade doesn't count), you'll get lower numbers; but if you can break even with low numbers, this would be a great way of getting into the swing of things.
There's space for a convention that does something totally different in the evening, if you can find a way to bring people together and keep them entertained without breaking the bank. Pot luck and disco night! I'd come :-)
Alternatively a more formal show can be run on a low budget IF you can use all or nearly all friendly locals and people who are coming anyway. I.e. no payment, no travel expenses, and probably no comped tickets. This can work if a lot of people owe you big favours. You have good odds that half of them will let you down at the last minute anyway, and you can't really blame them.
Finally, the past was great but it's gone now and it is not coming back. Do it your own way.
Don't make any assumptions based on a facebook poll!
Milton Keynes convention most years has about 100 people saying the will come and about 40 people saying maybe on facebook.
Our numbers over the last 4 years are
150, 225, 200, 200 (approx.)
Of those, about half have indicated via facebook that they would be attending. Some have indicated via facebook that they wouldn't be attending!
I'd say that there is a greater than even chance that a one-day convention anywhere in England will attract upwards of 150 people as long as it is planned far enough in advance and advertised properly. The lowest attended convention I have been to in the last 10 years was Nottingham early this September and they had about 100 attendees.
Indeed the Facebook part was meant to be distinctly tongue in cheek, no you can't estimate attendance accurately with Facebook.
As for your estimation approach... mathematically speaking, surely it's likely that there were some lower attended conventions and you didn't go to them!
In an average year I will go to at least 6 one day conventions. If they run on a weekend when I am not working and are less than 4 hours travel (one-way) then I am likely to attend. If they are in the South or Midlands then unless it is Leeds convention I have visited them at least once. Nottingham one-day conventions of the ones I have visited have been the ones with the lowest attendance on more than one occasion. I don't think I've been to another one-day convention with less than 120 people (numbers for Taunton convention anyone?)
Manchester convention might have had an attendance of less than a hundred, but it doesn't have a massive venue.
As others have said, if you want to run a convention - don't try to recreate one from the past. You'd do better to do your own thing. Run a fest you would want to go to.
If you're going low budget, then "a show in a pub" will knock a huge chunk off your costs. A lot of pub venues can be had for free (because the pub will make their money on the bar take) and by doing an impromptu/open style show you avoid a load of hassle with booking/paying/transporting acts - but for it to work well, you need to know that there will be people in the audience who can make it good.
So like Emily said, pre-seed the acts, choose your compere carefully. Are there any open-mic comedy gigs in the area? If so, start going to those, make friends with the guy who runs it and pick his brains for ideas about how to run a successful open-mic show.
I'm not sure what Manchester do at the moment as I've not been for years, but they used to do a pub quiz instead of a show with a few acts in the interval.
There's room in the scene for something different, as long as the party doesn't stop when the main venue closes. If people are coming a long way they want something to do in the evening, but that needn't be a show.
In terms of attendance, it depends how/where you advertise it and what time of year you run it. Pick your date carefully and make sure you don't clash (is the jug-con-org mailing list still running? If it is, someone will pop up shortly with details I'm sure!)
As effectively a "new" fest, you need to make people know it's there.
Facebook/Twitter/jugglingedge advertising is free, flyers handed out at exiting events are cheap. Plug the hell out of it and people will come.
Get the basics covered (day venue, evening venue) and if you think you can break even on 50 people aim for that - if you then get 150 people you can always tack on extras on-the-day like free pizza late in the afternoon, or a free drink in the evening venue.
Aim small, get a nice surprise, give some of it back :)
Oh, and if you're going for an open format show - *don't* call it a renegade.
That name has too much baggage for a one-day fest, and will put some people off "Urgh, I hate renegade, lets not bother" - so call it something else.
Make it sound like something new :)
The Jug Con Org mailing list still exists, but is perhaps only limping along with maybe just 7 posts a year.
"a show in a pub" will knock a huge chunk off your costs
Another alternative is to have acts perform in the hall at intervals. We did this at the Tunbridge Wells Festival in 2002 & it worked really well. Here's what I posted on jugconorg after the event:
Here's what we learnt:
We separated the acts by an hour which I was worried would leave too little juggling time in between but it seemed to be about right, but some workshops were cut a little short.
The only complaint we received was that there wasn't enough seating available. This was made by a spectating member of the public rather than a convention goer so it doesn't really count ;) We did discuss getting seating in, & aside from the hassle of laying out & packing up, it also makes for a more formal setting, the argument that won was, we're all jugglers - we all know how to watch a street show.
The system was praised as it maintained a high level of interest throughout the day, particularly for the non-jugglers who wandered in (of which we had quite a few). It also helped for a very relaxed & informal atmosphere as everyone was really close to & on the same level as the performers. It also helped keep the cost of the festival down as there was no need to hire a special venue or convert somewhere into a theatre. Arguably this way of doing things is less spectacular than a grand show, but I felt the excitement & anticipation while a performer set up was much better. I also think we got more value for money as after each show people had time to talk about or try out what they had just seen, whereas if there was another 1, 2, 3... acts on immediately after a lot of what the spectator saw would be forgotten.
We could have done better at the end of each act as there was a brief untidy spell, although this was literally only a matter of seconds. In the street people resume their shopping or whatever & a crowd naturally disperses, but I think there was a slight reluctance for people to resume juggling where the performer was while the performer was still there. If you want to give the system a go make sure there is someone on hand to help the performer pack up props & so on, people will want to say thankyou & chat to the performer afterwards so they'll probably appreciate a hand. Put the music through the sound system as soon as possible too just to get things going again.
I also know that some of the interest in this was because it is a different way of doing things. If every festival did the same thing I'm sure we'd probably get some more negative feedback.
Although I'm not sure how well this would work nowadays as you have to take care to pick performers who are good under street conditions rather than 'just' stage acts. I think the former are less common these days.
Everyone else talks much sense Chris-san, but there's one thing to add :-
Get in touch with the Black-E and see if they might be interested in helping out. They've been involved with circus stuff in the past (I think Liverpool Jugglers met there for a while) and promoted a circus show by CASUS Circus just one week ago. They even took the trouble to send me some flyers on the strength of having found my name on the net somewhere. If you're lucky they maybe able to help with day or evening venues, promotion, or co-promotion along with their own productions.
There is the potential in Liverpool to develop something. Good luck.
I think you should do it.
I promise to sport my most glorious scouse accent for at least as long as I can be bothered.
On a more serious note, you can run a convention on a shoe string so long as you can find a decent/cheap venue. Our show venue was the Student Union who were happy to have us for free. Is there a scouse circ soc that might give you a hand? Also I found that a huge quantity of low quality advertisement was very effective in getting people through the door - though to be honest, giving out hundreds of flyers at BJC may have helped in that respect.
There is a scouse circus soc, and I'm planning on breaking the news about a possible convention on Thursday. I don't know what sort of facilities the uni has for us to use, but I'm sure some of the current students will have a better idea.
Another thing I was going to ask about was gimmicks. York has the chocolate cake competition, Leeds has doughnuts, Oxford has crayfish (kudos on the name of next years convention, by the way). Is it worth bothering with a gimmick?
When we introduced the doughnuts in Leeds (1999 IIRC) there were conventions most weekends through the "season", so we wanted something cheap and silly to distinguish us from everyone else. They seem to have become a tradition despite all of the people who made that decision moving on.
I'm not convinced that you need to stoop to those levels anymore! Though if you've got a good idea and can afford it then what's the harm?
I'd check my tshirt for the date, but it's in the wash...
It would be great to see the Liverpool convention starting again, I have good memories of past Liverpool conventions. The after-convention activity at the Everyman were good fun too. I think the Juggling Club might have used to go to the Everyman after their juggling sessions so knew the management and could reserve half the bar on a Saturday night - but I might be wrong about that. I agree it would be better to start afresh rather than trying to recreate something that most people will be too young to remember.
There have been several conventions without big shows, Manchester quizzes in the pub were good, Bradford took everyone for a curry afterwards. Not having a big show saves a lot of organising, but the more you have to offer the more likely people are to come to the convention especially if it means travelling. There is also scope for doing something totally new and different in the evening if you can think of something with broad appeal.
The last Liverpool convention did have a show with acts including Dave Barnes, Dave Kelly & Guy Heathcote, but its atmosphere was marred by being held in half a sports hall with no stage or lighting and a game of football being held in the other half of the hall.
I would recommend teaming up with a university juggling society as they may be able to find a cheap venue. It is probably not coincidence that quite a few UK conventions are organised by university societies.
You don't need a gimmick, but if you want one or think of an easy to organise one that might attract more people it doesn't hurt. York convention did not get the Chocfest name or start the chocolate cake gimmick till after they had been going several years and Leeds' doughnut gimmick didn't happen till the 3rd or 4th year.
I think the main thing if you decide to hold it is plenty of publicity, Camvention did a great job of publicising their convention this year and had an attendance of ~250 for what was pretty much a brand new convention, likewise the relaunch of Oxford Convention was well publicised. If there aren't many jugglers locally you will have to work harder to persuade people to travel to your convention on the other hand holding a convention might encourage more local people to juggle.
I agree with avoiding the term "renegade" and you will get better results if you can ask people in advance if they would like to perform rather than expecting people to just volunteer to perform on the day (the same goes for people leading workshops).
Liverpool is not that close to Leeds it is about the same distance as London to Peterborough but with a slower train service.
The first Chocfest Chocolate Cake Challenge was at Chocfest 4 (I think Chocfest 3 was the first to carry the Chocfest name?) and was invented as a way to get more chocolate in to Chocfest.
It took 3 years to properly catch on. The first year I think we had about 10 or 12 cakes and the second year we had a grand total of 6 cakes (including one huge cake made by the university canteen staff that fed at least half the convention). We advertised it more for the third year and that's when we started getting 20+ cakes (now up to 35-40 cakes!).
As others have said though, a good convention will have the basics done well - the rest is just icing ;)
Only bother with stuff like that once you have nailed the important bits: Budget, venue under contract, vast amounts of publicity, planning for evening events if you are having some.
If you find yourself having organised that lot comfortably with plenty of time to spare then you can knock yourself out on the scouse alternative to doughnuts.
OR if you have an enthusiastic and creative person hovering about who is unable to help with any of the above, this problem is for them.
This with knobs on.
Get the basics sorted first, then add the quirky stuff afterwards.
The crayfish was more of an accidental promise that we didn't deliver on in any way than a gimmick. The only thing there was to do with crayfish at last year's ojc was me talking about them in the run up to the event, and albie giving me a carrier bag of them on the sunday afternoon when I left his.
That said, I'll be talking about them with similar vigour this year as I'm sure you've discovered already from the name of the convention.
When picking a date it's worth noting that Birmingham Ballring tends to be early February and Bath Upchuck tends to be late February. If you can pick a date that's not too close to other events you may get more people coming.
I was initially planning on keeping the date close to the original dates used for the Liverpool conventions, but I don't want to "compete" with Birmingham, Bath or Sheffield. (Un)fortunately, there are a lot of conventions in the UK, and wherever a new convention is placed, it will be close to at least one other.
It is only 10 weeks till February which is not a huge amount of time to publicise and organise a new convention.
For comparison JuggLINCOLNvention started advertising ~13 months in advance, Oxford Convention ~7 months, Camvention ~6 months.
This is not to say it cannot be done, but something to bear in mind and maybe will have to publicise slightly harder.
Not to mention that finding an acceptable venue (i.e. cheap enough) can take time, getting an agreement with the owners can take longer, and most of the country grinds to halt for at least two weeks over the Christmas holidays.
Or you could find a venue tomorrow and sign a contract the next day and then bingo! but more likely not.
Also watch out for exam periods. Your convention budget can stand or fall on ten attendees and exams could put a fork right in it.
I had no intention of running it this coming February. I'll probably have to wait until Ballring and Upchuck (and possibly Sheffield) have confirmed a date for 2015 before considering a late February/early March convention.
Ballring is the 8th Feb 2014 and UpChuck haven't announced their date yet, but this year there was only Chocfest, Ballring, Belfast, UpChuck and Sheffield in the 14 weekends before BJC - so there is space for more conventions.
Having conventions on consecutive weekends can also be detrimental to attendance so is probably best avoided.
I'd say that even two weeks apart isn't so great if you are in the same part of the country. There were a number of people at Cambridge convention who had made it to MKJC in previous years but didn't make it this year. Maybe our show line up didn't excite them enough or Cambridge did the publicity better but it is worth thinking about. Saying which Liverpool is a long distance from Bath so that will have much less of a crossover than Birmingham. (I know that despite all the good things I've heard about it that I have no plans for ever going to Durham convention as the journey is just a bit too much).
We made it to two Liverpool juggling conventions and enjoyed them so please bring it back. First weekend of February half term would be ideal for me at the moment :-)
Can you support the juggler.net redirection service?
As some of you will know a few years ago, the www.juggler.net redirection service for emails and web addresses was taken over by a small crew of jugglers who have continued to maintain it ever since. If you didn't know about it do take a look! Juggler.net was originally registered and set up by Patrick Clyne.
It runs on a hosted server and costs about £85 per annum for the hosting. So far it's been sponsored by the following organisations: BJC06 Kernow, BJC07 Notts, BJC08 Doncaster (massive thanks to all of these for your help over the years, plus of course the small crew of administrators). However the funds have now run out and we need approximately £100 to cover the current year's costs and hopefully some promises for the years after that (there has been the suggestion that we move it all somewhere cheaper but to be honest the simplest solution is to leave what's working very well alone for now - it was quite a task to move it originally).
If anyone would like to help you'd need to be able to transfer funds in some way to a UK Lloyds Bank account (the payments come from this, my circus business account). You'll have my gratitude plus that of the 500 or so people and organisations who use the service.
To respond please reply to this posting or contact me directly at charlie AT juggler DOT net
Apologies, I forgot that BJC2k had also sponsored the service right at the beginning (2004 I think), as did my own company Grip Circus.
"If anyone would like to help you'd need to be able to transfer funds in some way to a UK Lloyds Bank account"
If you sent around a mass email with this sort of gist, I'm sure you'd have many people who'd be happy to help out.
I'm a hosting reseller and would happily give you a free hosted account if you need. Let me know if you're interested and if you have any special requirements needed to make it work.
I'm also heavily involved in that one American juggling organization so if you're desperate, let me know and I'll see if they might be able to help.
Before I say, "I could offer the service through my hosting!" what exactly made the last move so difficult?
At the moment I'm thinking if you've got the email addresses in a spreadsheet I could set that up in a few clicks, the web redirection can be covered by a .htaccess file & the frame based service with a single php page.
Offers of hosting will be aplenty I reckon (you're welcome to use mine, for instance) but I guess you just want to throw a little money at making the problem go away seamlessly and with a minimum of effort. I'll mention it to Pete and perhaps Lestival will stump up for a year's hosting. Remind me if I don't get back to you.
Thanka Jay. You're right, offers of new hosting are great but to be honest the current system works well and there's no reason to move just for the sake of it. It *is* just some .htaccess and scripts, the fiddly bits are getting DNS changed (we don't own the domain) and setting up a method for updating redirects that is distributed, traceable and futureproof. Also, as we're about to be automatically rebilled, this isn't the best time to change anything! I promise to chat to people about alternative hosting options early next year though (Bungay would probably be the best place).
Andre Vincent's got a new column on Chortle, about under-rated comdey heroes.
Dear Hat Manipulators: Is the 'Urban Tumble' DVD originally on DVD-R?
I have (sadly?) seen it in a charity shop and they won't sell it to me and will then throw it away if I can't give them some evidence that it's an original from a small production run.
Urban Tumble was a comparatively small run, so was produced on DVDR rather than pressed. It should however have a full printed disk (and not just a plain DVDR with marker pen written on it or anything)
I can take photos of my copy (which I bought directly from Dan) if that would help convince them?
Thank you very much for going to the trouble for me LP. I showed them the picture and they sold it to me instead of considering it a fake.
I'd better get learning some hat manipulations :D
If you were willing to buy it, even in the case it was a fake, why would they care?
Because trading standards operate a secret shopper scheme and they could get in hot water for selling counterfeit goods?
Yep, summat like that.
Fifty pee just ain't worth it, not even to a charidee shop, and since they are So. Fucking. Ubiquitous. nowadays they've really started to get their retail act together. This is why my favourite charidee shops are the tiny little local ones with skiploads of unsorted crap and friendly and clueless volunteers to oversee the chaos and flog it super cheaply with a cheery smile and no questions asked.
Kaskade magazine ending.
I have just seen on facebook that the current issue of Kaskade juggling magazine is going to be the last. I guess all printed media are struggling in an age of on-line information, but I have enjoyed reading it in the past with the reviews of conventions and passing pattern instructions. Maybe I am partly guilty for its decline as I have not subscribed for a few years now.
They say they are going to create an on-line archive of all the past editions which could be a wonderful resource.
For those not on facebook you can see more details in the editorial in the on-line preview of issue 112 (go to 2nd page and click on image to enlarge then scroll back a page). Or maybe buy a copy of the last issue.
Are they not going to try and move online at all? Just wondering, not saying that they should.
Sad news but I can't say I'm surprised. I only have half a dozen or so issues, for some reason I never got excited about Kaskade the way I did about the Catch.
I think magazines like this have had their day. Their just isn't the demand to meet the costs of keeping up a regular publication. I don't think competition from the internet is the cause. The only online material that could be seen as competition is the IJA ezine which is itself the result of a shelved print magazine. Last month the ezine published ten posts, only five of which I'd class as magazine style articles. If I was a subscriber I wouldn't consider the availability of five articles as a reason to ditch my subscription.
Quality articles get written because big magazines can afford to pay the writer. We don't have the resources to do that in the juggling world. I think some people write articles for magazines because it looks good on their CV. There is a perception that because a magazine has an editor anything that makes it into print has been through a quality control process & is therefore good, whereas online publishing is still seen as an amateur enterprise where any old rubbish gets through, which may explain the lack of long form juggling articles.
The biggest factor though is that most people don't want to read long articles anymore. Which is a shame because some ideas are too complex to be communicated by a tweet.
After today's outburst by Nathan's wife on Facebook, I can see the convention DVD going the same way.
I'm not sure about the convention DVD. #MKJC4 will have a DVD of the show and we probably will do for at least a few more years. We produce a DVD for two reasons. The first is for the acts, we don't pay them enough and so we want to be able to give them something on top of the payment we make to encourage them to want to perform for us. At least one act has used this in their showreel. Secondly, we have an act with a bunch of kids and parents/grandparents like a record of what the kids do. We essentially haven't sold a DVD to the normal convention goers in the 3 years we've been going and yet we do two DVD's a year (the other being for the Concrete Circus show at the end of March). Even though we are recording from at least 3 cameras (up to 5 this year) the DVD is finished in about a month by a non-professional who can only use his spare time to do it.
As for the BJC DVD. I can't see anyone wanting to use Nathan again. Certainly if I lived in the North and wanted a show reel filming I'd look for a different videographer. I think that Nathan's wife was basically having a go at me but she doesn't seem to be aware that side benefits come from doing a job well (or even communicating when there is a problem). That Nathan is ill and not being paid for the DVD are not in dispute. However that people have paid quite a lot of money for DVDs creates a contract. Last year's BJC team are now in the position that they are in debt and either have to pay back all the money for the DVDs (which they can't do), get someone else to edit the footage (which no-one has suggested) or just hope that every juggler who paid £10 or £20 doesn't care about their money and is willing for it to just disappear or finally hope that Nathan manages to edit the DVD which he has said that he will do on various occasions (and then not done). I don't know the issues with Nathan and frankly it isn't necessary that I know them. I do know that it is November and the BJC was in April and that is rather a long time to wait for a DVD with one e-mail in August saying that there would be a delay. The obligation should actually be on last years' BJC team to sort this out. I know that they are students, still raising money to cover their debts and makers of very good cakes but this still needs sorting.
Apparently uncaring, aggressive and thoughtless
she doesn't seem to be aware that side benefits come from doing a job well
Shona's quite aware of that, but since Nathan is self employed AND unwell AND they have four kids the job they have to put all their focus into doing well right now is looking after their family, which honestly I have no idea how she manages at all.
I know it sucks for everyone who put money and and didn't get it back. Sometimes things in life suck :-/
"I never got excited about Kaskade the way I did about the Catch." Me neither - but I think I know why.
I was (a small) part of the world that The Catch was writing about. All the events, people, shows, clubs etc written about were comparatively local - it felt like a community. Kaskade was largely about events, people and shows which were outside of the pool I swim in. I didn't have that connection so Kaskade never really grabbed me.
From that point of view, comparing it to The Catch is unfair. They had very different audiences. Kaskade also managed to run for *much* longer - The Catch published it's last issue almost 20 years ago. Massive props to Kaskade for managing that!
It makes me wonder how long Kaskade ran for, and how does that compare to the IJA magazine?
I'd love to see the people who were writing articles for Kaskade writing online, but writing prose is hard work - and putting all that effort in seems worthwhile if you get a physical object at the end of it, even if no one says thankyou or gives you any feedback at all. If you put all that effort in to an online article, and no one comments on it - it feels far emptier. It's easier to give it up.
Not being on myfacetwit+ I don't know anything about this years BJC DVD situation, but I do know that I've not felt the urge to buy a festival DVD for almost 10 years now, and the ones I did buy have been barely watched. I'm probably not typical though, as I don't think I've bout a convention tshirt/hoodie since Bodmin either.
If Nathan is unwell though, I wholeheartedly wish him all the best and hope he gets better soon. I like N8 a lot, and have a huge amount of respect for him and Shona for various things - so I really don't like the thought that he might not be on top form :(
20 years? I think you'll find the last issue was in 1998!
Issue 1 of Kaskade was published in September 1984 (29 years). Jugglers World/Juggle ran from 1949 to 2012 (63 years).
Physicist here. It's within an order of magnitude, it all checks out. Nothing to see here, move along now ...
...a minor point of pedantry; Juggler's World only started in 1981, but it did continue the numbering system of its predecessor the IJA Newsletter. Calling the earlier issues of the newsletter a "magazine" would be very strong praise though!
Also, although they were published by the same organisation I tend to think of "Jugglers World" and "JUGGLE" as distinct magazines as they weren't published concurrently.
Or am I the only one who thinks about it like that?
As the chief editor of eJuggle, I feel like I should respond. Orin said that the ezine had 5 legit articles last month. First of all, I think that that was our slowest month ever. Second, the non-traditional articles included exclusive videos such as 8.5 minutes of never released footage of legendary juggler Massimiliano Truzzi, and nearly an hour of the IJA Festival DVD that we're now making available to IJA members rather than having them purchase it (this is also a relevant approach to further down this thread).
But, back to the articles, I want to point out that other juggling magazines generally came out quarterly so if you want to compare eJuggle's monthly output, you'd have to round up 3 months of ezine content to compare to one printed magazine. I can assure you that eJuggle provides a lot more than other magazines did.
eJuggle does have a modest budget to pay writers and we're always looking for new content. If you know someone suitable and interested, please send them my way. Contact info on http://ezine.juggle.org/feedback/.
The "8.5 minutes of never released footage of legendary juggler Massimiliano Truzzi" is the closest I've got so far to ponying up for membership - just so I could watch some restricted content.
It was tempting enough for me to start keeping a list of "urls to read when I get around to joining" at least.
"we're always looking for new content. If you know someone suitable and interested, please send them my way." - this. The Edge has some very thoughtful/entertaining writers, I'd love to see a few names from here turn up on my feed reader.
I was very close to having the Truzzi footage only for IJA members, but I decided that it was too important to keep to ourselves so in the end we will open it up to non-members from January 1. Mark you calendar (and email me if I forget to do it).
When I mentioned only 5 posts were 'magazine style' I didn't mean to suggest that the rest of the content especially the videos was not worth a look, merely that you don't put videos in a magazine. I know you didn't really suggest that I did Scott, but I'd just like to make that clearer.
You are right that I should take into account 3 months worth of posts. Is there an index view of the ezine archives?
" Is there an index view of the ezine archives?"
And if not, can there be please? The ezine is broken up into too many sections and categories for my taste, and it turns me off enough to where I never visit the site. Not to talk bad about the ezine, that's just my preference for website layouts. Maybe I don't have the attention span to dig through anything beyond a simple chronological list. If there was an index view I would probably keep up with it and read every article.
In the case of an online magazine, I tend to feel the same way—I want to see what new content there is without an hassle, without having to go through several pages trying to search out something that looks unfamiliar.
http://ezine.juggle.org/feed/ could be just what you need
Thanks, that's a good start. Wish that would've been easy to find and showed more than 18 posts though.
The footer of the site has a list of the 20 most recent posts. I also did a search for a space and it took me to this URL which I think might serve the purpose: http://ezine.juggle.org/?s=+&cat=all.
Describe more what kind of index you envision, and I'll see what I can do. Bonus points if you can link me to a wordpress plugin that does what you want...
Personally, I would like a page or pages with a list of links in reverse chronological order grouped by month, either 6 or 12 months to a page, no blurb or images, just the post title eg:
I'm not familiar with Wordpress though, it's far more fun to write your own code!
...although a quick Google found Smart Archives Reloaded which looks promising.
You can do it a month at a time easily enough: http://ezine.juggle.org/2013/09/
Or a year at a time: http://ezine.juggle.org/2013/
Personally, I added the feed to my RSS reader, and as it keeps a history I can spool back as far a I like.
...but that is split over far too many pages, the titles are too big & has part of the post content & thumbnails & oh the huge manatee!
I'm also subscribed to the feed which does what I want perfectly, but I'm not always at my home computer.
I'm using theoldreader.com as my rss reader these days. I can keep up with them anywhere, and it works lovely on my phone.
In which case someone else must be the "1 subscribers" for that feed via oldreader.com.
Good find! I've installed the plugin and it's great. There's now an Archive link in the header.
The Circus Book : 1870-1950. I've mentioned this luscious coffee table book on several occasions before now, on r.j, and it remains a beautiful and affordable tome which could also double as a doorstopper for a Zeppelin hangar.
Now Flavorwire has reproduced a selection of the pictures therein - take a look, they're rather lovely.
Oops. I go away for a week, completely off grid, and there are *167* ST posts when I get back! So not surprisingly I was fairly perfunctory in marking stuff as read. Hey ho.
I just thought I would share this as the latest hilarious example of TV producers bimbling about trying to get people to perform on their show for free (anyone at a loose end on Monday?)
Apparently if you win you can have some vouchers!
Why don't these shows just admit that what they really want are "young singers with terminally ill relatives" - why do they persist in pretending they're interested in anything else?
This is a new twist on a talent show! It is a SEXY talent show. (well, actually a pilot for a sexy talent show).
I quote: "Unfortunately the incentive to attract new acts is a fee of £0 (because we spent it all on a production team) but £300 of vouchers to the winner."
Mmmm, sexy vouchers.
Are they like Green Shield Stamps?
I'm trying to get from green shield stamps to an ann summers joke and not quite managing it
Presumably, sexy vouchers are what your other half gives you on Valentines day, redeemable for various adult activities. I don't think green stamps with a little booklet of offers would be quite the same somehow.
The only talent show I've ever given any credence to is Got to dance, firstly because it didn't do the "let's laugh at these people because they are crap" thing, but mostly because the three judges (Kimberly Wyatt,Adam Garcia and Ashley Banjo) are all shit hot dancers themselves & really know what they are talking about.
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If it's a bit quiet today that may be because everyone is at 15° Convenção Brasileira de Malabarismo, Circo e Palhaço or Malaysia Diabolo Carnival 2013.
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