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Pitr -

Hi,

New here!

Not new to juggling. Juggled a lot from 2000 - 2014 or so. Visited many festivals all over Europe and the UK.

Then had a family.

Now getting back into visiting festivals. I see the usual crowd is still here :-)

Nice to see you all again. Hope to meet RL soon.

Pieter from NL

The Void - - Parent

*waves* Hey Pitr!

Cedric Lackpot - - Parent

Hello! I was just wondering what happened to you the other day, and now I know. Good to see you again.

Ewano - - Parent

Oh Hi - Bungay is soon. Just saying..

Cedric Lackpot -

Facebook and /r/juggling are reporting the death of Steve Mills :(

Little Paul - - Parent

Oh no!

Steve was “a bit of a handful” for sure, but I really enjoyed the time I spent with him when he was over here.

I’m glad I got to meet him, that pre-interview for the old skool panel was amazing

Orinoco - - Parent

RIP Steve, definitely a huge character. I didn't think he was particularly old when I met him, probably due to his energy. /me Googles... born 1957, so 66 years old.

Mïark - - Parent

David Cain's obituary for Steve Mills on IJA website:

https://www.juggle.org/remembering-steve-mills/

Little Paul - - Parent

Thanks for posting that, there’s some video in ther I haven’t seen before

Giocoleria da diporto - - Parent

I want to remember Steve with his message on Facebook, in response to the first two video of Willy Colombaioni with a 8 clubs qualification: Willy had been rightly criticized for having published these two videos, in which the images they were cut too soon and it was therefore not possible to understand if Willy had really held the clubs at least for a few moments in his arms, thus making it impossible to say if he had really equaled the world record of Gatto/Commarota ((Willy published another video only a few weeks later in which it was irrefutable that he had managed to juggle them). Well Steve, in his simplicity, had wanted to write the following message to Willy:

He is a great guy. His English sucks so he communicates poorly but that's simply because he is Italian. I love people posting videos! I don't mind if someone feels they are great! That is awesome! What is wrong with someone being loved? What is wrong with someone feeling loved? What harm is there to someone loving them selves? What is wrong with someone loving everyone ? I don't care about the fucking trick!!!!! I care that he was excited!!!! It's juggling!!!! At any view- CLOSE ENOUGH!!!!!!! It shows clearly he CAN DID WILL juggle 8 clubs!!! So what about the trick!!! Willy I love you man!!!!! Great job!!!!!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/JugglingRock/posts/921126344623588/?comment_id=923624981040391&__cft__[0]=AZVmAxQkT_80JrlUGeP6md25FBfvlewxPEYA1ZTKFOo6o4rKQVvVC0qgMZtrlPZYuNzEzETSvmEm0bAd_zoXeEI3r0dPbSGHUVwTLqFN8k0mlDGU4gjP0cJHFam-qRbK9e6CTTDHRhoM5LDQ2ScTI1Et&__tn__=R]-R

I hope you're resting in peace, Steve, and enjoying the beatific vision, which is way better than a 30 ball Mills’ mess 😇

Ward Wouts -

Hi,

Been juggling for over well 20 years, but somehow never joined juggling edge. That gets fixed now.

Ward

The Void - - Parent

Hey Ward, welcome aboard! Nice to see you here.

Ward Wouts - - Parent

Hi. Good to see you on here too!

Orinoco - - Parent

Welcome to the Edge Ward. What's your favourite festival?

Ward Wouts - - Parent

Euh. That is a hard question. I think I've been to ~100 over the years. Can't really pick one from that lot.

The last couple of years I've only gone to the Dutch for logistics reasons (Dutch, EJC and the in-crowd passing one used to be the fixed set). Will probably travel a bit further again when the kids are a bit older and can manage the "sitting in car" thing a bit longer.

Cedric Lackpot - - Parent

Ward! Greetings. I haven't seen you in many years ... assuming you're the Ward I think you are :)

Ward Wouts - - Parent

Must be. Are there others these days? ;)

Mïark - - Parent

Hi Ward,

it is great to see you on Juggling Edge at last. Do you still have the chiquitita juggling clubs?

Ward Wouts - - Parent

Hi Mïark. No, those were Pieter's. But it's an easy mistake to make as we usually traveled together.

Joost Dessing - - Parent

Not been on here for ages, only to return on a whim and find out you just joined! Hope you are well!
I have been out of the scene for a while, but starting to teach the little ones the joys so bound to be back. The juices were flowing when there was a plan for EJC coming to Ireland again (I live in Belfast); too bad that did not happen.
Joost

Ward Wouts - - Parent

Heee Joost,

Now that is a nice coincidence. Also I thought there were rules against you teaching children. If not there should be ;)

Joost Dessing - - Parent

ok, I'll bite...
I created the following approved curriculum
Lesson 1: 1-ball juggling
Lesson 2: 2-ball juggling
Lesson 3: 3-ball juggling
Lesson 4: 4-ball juggling
Lesson 5: 5-ball juggling
Lesson 6: 6-ball juggling
Lesson 7: 7-ball juggling
Lesson 8: "Duct tape - beyond MacGuyver"

Ward Wouts - - Parent

Good to see you’re going easy on them. ;)

Greg McAlpin -

Hi. Does anyone know if it is possible to purchase the download of the Tricks with Hats DVD? I believe that is was made by Little Paul and Richard Loxley. It used to be for sale on the Tricks with Hats website.

Thanks for any help!

Greg

The Void - - Parent

I have let Richard know you're interested. I expect he'll be along before too long to help out.

Richard Loxley - - Parent

Hi Greg,

Yes, technically it's still available to buy! Although through a series of expired domains the link is almost impossible to find now.

You can get it here:
https://sites.fastspring.com/richardloxley/product/trickswithhatsvideo

But beware, it's DivX format (which was about as good as we could do in 2007 and have a manageable download size) so needs an appropriate player, and the quality isn't quite as good as the DVD.

Incidentally, we stopped actively promoting it several years ago, and have both agreed to make it available for online streaming for free, but that requires a bit of effort for me to try to find the original rendered files on whichever hard disk and obsolete computer they're squirrelled away on, and upload it somewhere.

So in the meantime, if you enter JUGGLING-EDGE-AUGUST-SPECIAL in the checkout before the end of the month you should be able to download it free of charge :-)

Richard Loxley - - Parent

(That goes for anyone else BTW, the coupon should be unlimited uses.)

Little Paul - - Parent

I have a vague memory of having already put it online for streaming somewhere, but I really can’t remember where.

Little Paul - - Parent

This amuses me
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274897730406

“Rare” (and probably unplayable by now)

Richard Loxley - - Parent

Wow! I have a box of them up in my loft. I should list them at half that price and clean up ;-)

I seem to remember you gave them back to me when you found half of them were getting returned as they wouldn't play, and we decided to move to download only.

Greg McAlpin - - Parent

That is awesome!!! Thank you so much!

Little Paul - - Parent

Well this is awkward. I’ve just discovered that someone had bought the trickswithhats.org domain name and reposted the site.

Without me knowing about it.

The site is back online, all the original content, but not hosted by me.

Does anyone know who did that?

The Void - - Parent

I don't know. There are some links, pics and vids missing, so I assume someone scraped all the files they could from the Wayback Machine, and put it all back up. If anyone's looking for the vids, they're (all?) at http://juggling.tv/users/7233/TricksWithHats . And if Mysterio is reading, hey, link it up! :-)

Little Paul - - Parent

The whole site is still online at http://twh.lpbk.net (and has been ever since I lost control of the domain name) including the original video files (although they're easier to watch on juggling.tv)

If anyone does know who is hosting it, please ask them to reach out to me.

Richard Loxley - - Parent

I noticed that when I was looking up the internet archive version. I presumed you must have regained control of the domain.

I wonder who did that - a fan maybe? It certainly doesn't seem to be monetised.

Cedric Lackpot - - Parent

Have you checked with drunk you?

Little Paul - - Parent

I checked with Mikey if that’s what you mean…

7b_wizard -

What's the worst conditions you ever had to or did juggle in?
[ rather 'seriously', kind'a sheduled stint, I mean not just for joy in the mud for a couple yer minutes or not just a couple 'e y'attempts in a thunderstorm jus' for a good laugh ]

The Void - - Parent

Not sure about "worst", but most annoying was when I was booked to entertain as a juggler, and on arrival at the venue, finding I could very nearly touch the ceiling with my outstretched arm. 3 balls ahoy!

7b_wizard - - Parent

Haha, okay!

Cedric Lackpot - - Parent

Hmm, I recall working as a fire juggler many years ago in somewhere cold, wet, and northern such as Huddersfield or Rochdale. It was also bastard cold, sleeting/snowing, and blowing a gale. I used custom torches at that time - heavy build, shortish in length, and enormous wicks. Those bastards were heavy AF and hard on your hands but in general they didn't get blown around by the wind at all, they were much more stable than even Renegade clubs.

But not that day, oh no, if there was a bit of a gust at the moment when I threw a single spin it would move sideways a metre before coming back level with my hands ... which sadly by that time were already a metre away and receding fast.

7b_wizard - - Parent

oh yeah, sounds very horrible ;o}

Orinoco - - Parent

I once performed in a circus scene for an outdoor opera. On one night it rained so hard it drowned out the sound of the singers. We did point out that we couldn't perform in the conditions but nobody cared. Part of our set was a devilstick routine & we were using old style devilsticks (this was before the hyper-grippy Lunastix style props) they might as well have been made from soap. After about 20 drops & not succeeding in keeping the prop afloat for more than 3 seconds I decided that learning to cope with the conditions in front of the audience was not a great idea & just juggled them instead, but the rain was so hard it hurt to keep your eyes open so I barely did more than a cascade. The acrobats slipped & fell flat. Afterwards it was a strip & wring out your underpants affair.

It was hilarious. Not sure the punters thought so.

7b_wizard - - Parent

Oh, my goodness! Impossible, ugly and mean as conditions.

Monte - - Parent

Sobriety.

7b_wizard - - Parent

hehe^^

The Void -

Ric Taylor.

I just heard the sad news that we lost Ric recently. You may have known him from the Manchester juggling scene. Nothing but good memories of him for me. Thanks for making me smile, Ric.
Vale.
https://tlmb.net/galleries/Manc2004Web/pages/page_8.html

Cedric Lackpot - - Parent

:-O

That's not fair. Miss you Ric.

Little Paul -

Looks like Gerry Cottle has packed his trunk and said goodbye to the circus

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-55658380

Cedric Lackpot - - Parent

Lots of rather generous memories on FB (please sanitise your entire body after use) many of which agree that he was driven, opinionated, and also a thoroughly decent human being. He was certainly very sparky and fun to be around on the couple of occasions that I met him.

Here's The Grauniad's obituary - https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2021/jan/14/gerry-cottle-circus-showman-and-wookey-hole-caves-owner-dies-of-covid-aged-75

The Void - - Parent

Ditto. :-(

Mïark -

Unfortunately no BJC in Perth this year.

For those not on facebook this was posted today on the BJC facebook page:
Ahoy a'bdy,
All of us at BJC headquarters hope that you are all keeping well, and that you’ve had a good festive season! We’d say, “Happy New Year,” but that might seem a bit hollow, given what we have to say...
...OK, here goes.
We did our best over here, but we’ve sadly had to make the absolutely gutting decision to cancel BJC Perth.
Although there is now a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel, we're still acutely aware of the unpredictability of it all, and while we're absolutely itching for things to return to normal, we just can’t gamble on the likelihood of a 500 person week-long sleepover being permissible come July.
We’re sorry, and we’re sad. A lot of work has gone into this event, and we can’t quite believe that it has just evaporated before our eyes...
But, we’re trying to stay optimistic! The Ramsgate team are primed and ready to make a start on their plans for 2022, and we know it's going to be AWESOME!
Anyway, I’m going to have a small cry, watch some juggling videos, and think about all of my juggling pals who I can’t wait to see (when it’s safe).
Take care folks, we’ll all see each other again soon.
❤️???????
- Avril x


#BJC2021

Cedric Lackpot - - Parent

I feel like Avril and the team pulled the short straw on this ... and then got another bonus extra-short exploding straw filled with glass shards and angry bees, just to fuck with their heads. Two cancellations! That's tragic for you guys, I'm so very sorry you were the poor unfortunates to have to suck this up, but I congratulate you on making the pragmatic decision in a timely fashion, twice.

Dog knows when we will meet again but it would be a privilege to buy a beer for any and all of the Perth orgs if I ever get an opportunity.

Tufty - - Parent

That sucks harder than electrolux, but it's understandable. Stay positive (but not COVID-positive), stay safe, and we'll all get back together when we get to the other side.

Cedric Lackpot - - Parent

Aaaaaand the top link is Polish spam. Mmm, spamsky, cheers Marvin.

Orinoco - - Parent

It's a parked domain from the announcement of the German-Czech juggling meet so I'm prepared to give it the benefit of the doubt for now.

The current BJC domain is in the same boat for example: https://bjc2021.co.uk

Richard Loxley -

Today we're officially launching our new Juggling Family website! https://juggling.family/

This brings together our "family" of jugglers to socialise in real-time using video and text chat.

You can create rooms themed around shared interests.

You can add events to the calendar for meet-ups.

So far we have 50 users who've been beta-testing it over the last five weeks. It's now looking pretty good, and ready for a wider audience ?

There are lots of regular events already scheduled, and a special room "Christmas Cheer" to allow us to socialise over the holiday period. We're planning events throughout the holiday to bring people together if their plans aren't quite the way they'd normally be ❤

Please drop in and say "hi". You can see who's in a video chat before you join in, so you know what to expect. And do feel free to say hello when you join a chat - people are very friendly and you'll quickly get to know people.

Richard

Richard Loxley - - Parent

Incidentally, this isn't an alternative to the Edge, it's complementary :-)

Juggling Family is for real-time, transient chat, whereas Juggling Edge is for asynchronous, permanent threads.

I'll be still using both :-)

Orinoco - - Parent

Congratulations Richard, thank you for all the hard work.

I signed up a while ago but have yet to join in a video chat session. I have shockingly now acquired the hardware required for video conferencing. Now all I have to do is find some time...

Looking forward to seeing some familiar faces.

Richard Loxley - - Parent

I've tried to do a bit of a blanket publicity push for juggling.family, but self-promotion is very much outside my comfort zone.

I've posted here, and on various Facebook groups, and via my @juggling_family Twitter account (https://twitter.com/juggling_family)

Anyone else got places where they can spread the word?

Cedric Lackpot - - Parent

18k subscribers over at /r/juggling Richard.

Not so many of them will be tea-obsessed, buttercup-fancying, remainer, obscure-board-game fans, with a keen eye for the misuse of apostrophes, and all the other qualities that I imagine will be present in The Fambly, but nonetheless I guess you'll find some interest there.

Orinoco - - Parent

They don't sound like jugglers at all.

Richard Loxley - - Parent

I don't yet have an account on Reddit, although I do lurk occasionally.

I've tried to keep away since I realised most of what I was reading was people posting things that they found outrageous, so that other people could share their outrage together. Kind of like the Daily Mail really.

And there's maybe a danger that people from a juggling subreddit might expect to actually talk about ... juggling?

But if anyone who does post there wants to promote juggling.family, feel free! Just maybe talk up the angle that it's for the *social* aspect of the community ;-)

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