Tendonitis solutions? So having moved to a house with a high ceiling, the inevitable has happened. I've over done the numbers juggling and now have elbow pain in my right arm (inner elbow). Especially bad since the BJC. I've not work on anything over 7 balls since the BJC. Lately I've not been doing much juggling at all but it doesn't seem to be getting better. I've not seen anyone about it yet, but thinking I probably should. Would a GP actually be of any use for this? Are my numbers juggling days over?
I went to my GP when I was in need of physiotherapy (and still in the UK). I didn't have high hopes. But she took the problem seriously and referred me to a physiotherapist without fuss.
That's my anecdata, and unrelated to your problem, but I'd definitely seek help. I think perhaps you can refer yourself too, but I don't know how that works in the UK. Maybe Alby will be along soon...
Of course I've just mentioned physiotherapy and I don't know what a proper treatment might be in this case, but yeah: Go ask.
Thanks. I'm not sure what your physiotherapy was relating to. One of the problems I foresee is that my issue is not debilitating at all for normal everyday activities. It's a sports injury that only hinders my juggling. That's why I'd be concerned that a GP would not take it seriously or would simply tell me to stop. Probably means that I'm unlikely to get any help on the NHS.
Well that's why I was surprised. I was suffering from shoulder problems caused by bad posture and made worse by bad juggling form. My worries were similar to yours but turned out to be unfounded. Your mileage may vary etc.
OK, but did it cause problems with other tasks? The last few days I was moving furniture around, removing doors and carrying them around with no problems. Then I did a bit of 5 clubs and 7 balls and got pain afterwards and the next day.
Yes, it was causing occasional problems with general movement. But my GP, who I saw when the problem wasnt causing pain, wanted to refer me because I had said it was keeping me from juggling. Of course I went in there talking about sometimes not being able to stand up, but then the conversation moved into talk of my doubts about wanting to talk to a Dr about juggling.
And yeah, I waited months for an NHS physio. Was pleased with the treatment I got in the end.
Hi. I'm sure I'll add to this later but if GP doesn't take it seriously then ask them directly for physio referral. Round my way people are self referring to NHS physio. There's a wait but you'd still get seen. Failing that get an appt at a sports physio - local costs here are between £35 and £50 for an initial assessment. Quicker and easier and no Dr referral needed.
Thanks. I think a sports physio is the way to go. Sounds like it could get expensive though.
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I don't know how these things work in the UK, but I indeed never get any good advice from "normal" doctors and physio therapists. They tell me to stop, or they tell me it's not a big deal, even though it's my job to perform.
For anything I'll go to my sports physiotherapist, which is the one every circus artist goes to in Rotterdam. He has so many clients from the circus school that I always meet friends when I'm there... But any sports physio might be able to take your request seriously?
That sucks so bad :( I find it strange you got it in the elbow- all other jugglers I know incuding myself have only ever got it in the wrist. My only real suggestion is to perhaps find the lightest versions of all the props you can get- for instance I know of several people who never got problems again after switching to Norwiks.
I think the damage was done with 11 ball training. It's the speed and sudden change in direction of the upper arm, not the weight of the props.
Oh ok that makes sense... I don't practice numbers because I find they are very straining. Maybe let it recover and the only work on 5-7 ball patterns?
Yes you can go to your GP about this ( speaking as one), worth asking about physio first, if your GP has this( quite new cross the country) you may be able to book in directly.
It sounds like you may have golfers' elbow, (without seeing you.) if so there are good excerises on The Summit Medical Group website
https://www.summitmedicalgroup.com/library/adult_health/sma_medial_epicondylitis_exercises/
Alice
Thanks. The web page looks useful. If it helps diagnosis, pain usually happens when I face my palm upwards and tense my bicep.
Little Paul - - Parent #
Peter, what is it going to cost you to see a GP in person?
Nothing?
So what have you got to lose by trying. Give the NHS a chance, you live in a first world country with a health service that is free at the point of use - so why are you messing about with text based remote diagnosis over the internet?
I wouldn't rely on text based diagnosis exclusively. I've already contacted an NHS physio as I said. My local GP is very busy and I don't want to take up their time if I can go straight to a physio. Normally if I want to see the GP I call as soon as the phone lines open, wait 10 minutes to reach the front of the queue and then get told that there are no appointments left for today and to try again tomorrow, unless it's a serious problem, which this isn't. It may take several weeks to get to see a physio, so any exercises that may help in the meantime are helpful.
Little Paul - - Parent #
Your GP doesn't offer non-emergency appointments? You can't book an appointment for 2 weeks time?
Sounds a bit unusual for a GP
Hi Peter, retrospective what was the diagnosis and your therapy? Stretching? How long did it take to fully recover? I am suffering the same right now. I have some annoying dull pain in the right inner elbow (bottom part of brachialis and upper part of brachioradialis). My biceps and forearm are very tight from numbers juggling and I do some massage and stretching. I think I have over done numbers juggling as well. Now after a break of one week it is better and I've tried 3 balls for 30 minutes and some short runs with 5 balls. The right arm feels weak and unfortunately the next day the same pain was back again. So I have to rest again. Any tips here?
Hi. I ended up not seeing anyone about it, so don't have any precise diagnosis. I probably should have. I didn't do any specific exercises. It's completely fine now, but I had to take time off from numbers juggling for around 6 months. If you have a tendon issue like I had then it takes a long time to heal. The best thing is to find something else to work on other than numbers. I now work on numbers more carefully by breaking it up into multiple shorter sessions throughout my practice routine, which I believe is better for improving anyway.
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