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Melvin Moon - #
Hi. I am new here. I juggle mostly in my wheelchair. I am also quite new to the juggling lingo. A couple of weeks ago a friend of mine challenged me to take a juggling record in my wheelchair, he came up with some difficult ideas and I said "no way", but I have done it now. 2 ball in one hand while I balance on two wheels of the wheelchair, if balance is lost and I might fall backwards and if so I could injure the head really bad, so it is risky! I am currently working on the 5 ball cascade qualification, 3 balls reversed Mills mess and alternate between synch and asynchronous 4 balls fontaine. I have plans for attending the Swedish juggling convention and EJC next year. I use Instagram with the username wheelchair.juggling.
Hi Melvin,
Welcome aboard. The two-in-one hand with a wheelie sounds neat. Well done.
Welcome Melvin.
I just added a 'while balanced in a wheelchair' modifier to the records section which you can use to define your own tricks in the records section, & I've fixed the system to allow Instagram videos too.
That's impressive stuff. I've only seen one other wheelchair juggler at a juggling festival who was balancing on 2 wheels while balancing a club on their chin which must've required some crazy core strength!
Melvin Moon - - Parent #
Yay! Thanks you so much Jon for the options!
That sounds cool double balance. It requires good control of core strength!
Johnathan Mundell - - Parent #
Hi Melvin
Daniel Simu - - Parent #
Welcome!
I met a wheelchair juggler for the first time only last weekend at a convention. I was very frustrated as her front wheels moved sideways a lot on every toss, so a lot of energy gets wasted moving yourself around rather than your props. I mentioned this to her and she acknowledged the difficulty, but got fed up with having to lock/unlock her brakes every time she dropped...
Glad to see in your videos that your wheelchair is kinda stable, as long as you're with 4 wheels on the ground of course ;)
Good luck setting records!
Does anyone have any 9 ball juggling tips?
Have a look in https://web.archive.org/web/20111122222555/http://www.jugglingdb.com/compendium/skills/training/numbers/
Johnathan Mundell - - Parent #
thanks
I remember years ago seeing a bunch of pictures on how to hold and release several balls from a hand, including different ways to do it. I can't find it anymore though :( I checked through these links and they are great but haven't found any pictures yet.
I'm guessing you are probably thinking of this?:
https://www.stevenragatz.com/bkstg/grip1.htm
Mike Moore - - Parent #
Flashing or running?
Johnathan Mundell - - Parent #
flashing
Focus on making the first two throws super high. Try a few different holding and release patterns in your hand cause it's easy to fail a throw if you aren't comfortable with the way you are holding them. Use smaller beanbags (like 100g beanbags, 2.5 inch diameter or so). I used to be able to flash 9 after a few dozen attempts, but that was years ago. Trying to get it back myself. Good luck.
Mike Moore - - Parent #
My student just flashed 9 balls for the first time, so I have a collection of cues that helped him:
* Keep your core strong/a bit tense, relax your arms just a little more than you think you need to
* Try a couple slower, and imagine the counterforce of your throws moving down through your legs into the floor. I find a lot of people waste energy by the counterforce taking indirect routes to the floor
* Exhale through the release
* Focus more on speed than height (usually this doesn't change the height, but does change the speed! And this is more for flashing than running the pattern)
I hope this helps and the rain leaves!
Johnathan Mundell - - Parent #
Thanks Mike,
I will probably have to wait for a long time to get a decent place to practice as even though the rain just left the ground is still wet and we just saw our first snow! Even though the ground doesn't have any snow on it.
The only time I'll have gym access is in the winter and then only once a month! :(
Johnathan Mundell - - Parent #
Thanks for all the help.
i have not been able to try them yet as it has rained a lot.
A juggling video I made this summer https://youtu.be/qRNlovT1ZfQ
Thanks for checking it out!
Mike Moore - - Parent #
Is it me you're looking for?
From the other side?
Daniel Simu - - Parent #
I don't know why you say goodbye
Little Paul - - Parent #
Alexander Graham Bell originally suggested 'ahoy' be adopted as the standard greeting when answering a telephone, before 'hello' (suggested by Thomas Edison) became common.
RegularJugular - - Parent #
Making Mr Burns from the Simpsons to be the only 'person' to answer the telephone correctly?
Hello fellow jugglers! I moved to Tucson last fall, and it only just crossed my mind moments ago that I should look and see if there is a community of jugglers in this neck of the woods. Lo and behold, here you are! I so look forward to meeting you, socializing, and juggling together!
I have studied American Sign Language (ASL) for many years, and have made a few ASL Music Videos. (This fall, I will be enrolling in the ASL Interpreter Program at Pima Community College.) In two of these ASL Music Videos, I threw in a bit of juggling just for fun. Check it out. https://youtu.be/WblrqkbtGag
What on Earth is going on at Juggling Rock?
I'm not really old enough to understand all the Facebook old fogies, but there seems to have been a heckin' big ruckus over at Juggling Rock earlier today. Can anyone provide a brief rundown, preferably of the unbiased variety?
From what I've read I understand summary bans have been issued, people have got terribly upset about it all, and it all seems a bit of a mess. But it's FB so I really can't be arsed to trawl through everything - and evidently some of it has been deleted anyway - but can anyone give me an overview? Is it a genuine dispute or just internet parody flouncing? Does anyone give the slightest shit?
Most importantly, is there any substance to the implied accusation that someone at JR has a problem with talking about LBGT+ issues? Common or garden internet slapfests are ten a penny and I can happily ignore them; fundamental issues of bigotry I can not. Hence the request for further information, help me out please Edge.
Well, someone tried to write a summary in the comments on some of the posts, might not be completely unbiased but something like this:
"Basically it boils down to: Original Post about an insta channel featuring lgbtq+jugglers is met with support and a very vocal minority expressing their discomfort with what they see as "Not Juggling related" and "divisive" in harsh comments. Post is then deleted by admins. Someone posts another message asking for an explanation: this sparks a big discussion on inclusiveness, with, again, a very vocal minority who feels incredibly uncomfortable with the subject and troll around, baiting people. Gets a bit more heated. Pavel comes out, bans the pro-lgbtq side of the argument, and no one else, explaining that he only deleted the original post because "someone reported it and he has no time actually reading the posts". Due to very tame backlash, he starts banning around people questioning his methods and his motives, deletes his explanation, and the 230+ thread that sparked a genuine interesting global conversation on inclusiveness. He then proceeds to continue banning people who question his decisions (these people happen for the most part to be lgbtq+, go figure), while refusing every form of dialogue."
Tom Derrick - - Parent #
Hasn't that place been a dumpster fire of sensible moderation from the get go? I seem to remember that's why the much more pleasant Juggling Home group got set up. I've not been a part of JR for quite some time now, seems like I've missed very little.
Hey so yeah. I'm the one who made the original post regarding an idea I had for an Instagram project for the LGBTQ+ juggling community. I linked to the Instagram I had created, and basically asked people's opinions on whether it was a good idea or not. It received an overwhelming amount of support. The rest of the story was summed up perfectly by Maria.
People were banned and got, rightfully, very upset. I was one of those who was banned. Myself and a few others started doing organized targeted protests. And yeah. Basically quite a lot of people left juggling rock. Fun times.
Little Paul - - Parent #
Do you have a link to the insta account?
Yep! You can find it on Instagram @CirquePride and also now on Facebook @cirquepride.
Little Paul - - Parent #
Thanks, not normally the sort of content I follow on IG, but I’ll keep an eye on it anyway :)
I was disappointed that the advertised lineup for the “circus” stage at Bristol Pride last weekend was entirely aerial acts (and we all know how I feel about yet-another-tortured-love-story-being-tangled-up-in-mums-old-curtains) Much like the cabaret stage was all drag acts.
Huge amounts of “could do better” there from a variety point of view, and hopefully things like your project will broaden the pool of acts events like that can pull from
The Jugglingrock group description has been updated with new rules now:
""Made for in touch with jugglers around the world".
''International Juggling group''
Show us, what you can do!
Be aware of the latest juggling news!
Share your news...
Stay positive :)
learn how to juggle, following the advice of other jugglers!
To join the group, you need to answer simple questions.
RULES IN GROUP!
If anyone of you has been blocked
it has own reasons:
posts not related to juggling!
Any kind of propaganda and popularization on topics:
--Fascism, nazism, nationalism etc. !
--Sexual communities or your sexual preferences
--Politic things!
--Racism!
--Drugs, alcohol, smoking!
--Suicide!
--War and terrorism!
--any kind of violence!
-disrespectful communication or insults
-advertising with links to another websites
-spam, desinformation
-Invitations and advertisements of other groups, communities.
-Commercial Post(without notice to the administration)
Please think what you post!
Еhere are children in our community!
We are glad to see everyone, who loves juggling!
Here we do juggling!
Pavel Evsukevich"
Well, taken out of context, not wanting "sexual communities" mentioned on a juggling page seems to make sense. (I wouldn't like to see porn there...) However, we all know that this wasn't what this was about. Not discussing "your sexual preferences", well... I don't want details about what people like to do in bed, either, but again, that is not what was happening. I can also understand that they want the juggling group to be about juggling, I would have been fine with them deleting posts that truly didn't have anything to do with juggling, including if people said something like "I am gay and proud". I wouldn't have seen that as homophobic. But your post was about juggling. I don't see why anyone would report it, and if taking it down was a mistake they should have handled it better.
They are really deleting a lot right now, because people are still posting protests. I have only commented so far, am not banned yet. I kind of wonder where the line goes for discussing "sexual preferences". Would I be allowed to post a juggling video saying "Look, me and my boyfriend made a video!" That is telling people that I am hetero, right? Would it be different from saying "Look, me and my girlfriend made a video!"? I hope that both would be OK, but I can't be sure.
pumpkineater23 - - Parent #
I wonder has there ever been a juggling porn video? Perhaps someone should make a (soft) gay juggling porn video and post it to Juggling Rock?
Daniel Simu - - Parent #
There was a gay porn actor who was active on rec.juggling and shared a scene in which he juggled 5 balls before getting it on. I couldn't find it now straight away but with a little effort I'm sure you can find this clip / thread :p
Little Paul - - Parent #
I remember that happening (IIRC it wasn't signposted as being porn, or even flagged up as nsfw - which caused a bit of a ruckus) and I spent some time last night trying to find it.
I came away from the experience dismayed at just how difficult it is to search for old rec.juggling posts these days. There really isn't a nice way to do it.
Clackpot mentioned the LaSalle twins, I don't *think* they were responsible for the video you mentioned, but I do remember them having some nude photos on their website.
Unfortunately, they had a flash based splash page for entering their website - so I can't get past the front page on the copy saved on archive.org... there's a limit to what I'm willing to do in the name of historical research - and installing flash is a step too far!
Cedric Lackpot - - Parent #
IIRC they were in a truly execrable juggling/porn short which, if I remember it correctly, went like this :-
Scene : A typical American suburban living room
I think I could probably write more of this stuff, I clearly have a knack for the complex narrative arc and intricate plots of saucy juggling videos.
That would only justify their new rules. Better a very innocent juggling video with maybe a quick kiss between two people of the same gender. Something that nobody would object to if it was a man and a woman.
Cedric Lackpot - - Parent #
The LaSalles (sp?). They were waaay better at juggling than porn, absolutely loved their show at BJC Derby.
Tom Derrick - - Parent #
I remember being sent a video of an 11 ball flash many years ago, in which only 82% of the props were juggled.
I've also seen a clip of quite a talented chap doing a variation on chin rolls at waist height, but there's no way I'm looking for that while at work.
Little Paul - - Parent #
I’m about 95% sure I remember who the 11 ball flash was...
I believe the club manipulation routine was “chip tanner” (Jamie Stroud) and there seem to be a couple of versions available online.
Mike Moore - - Parent #
First name raises cars, last name has a stuffed tiger named Hobbes (but spelled differently).
Off-topic: Orin, I've "marked this thread as read" 5 times now, and the 2 most recent messages are still showing as unread, both in the thread view and on the index. Let's see what happens after I post this...
On-topic: #DeleteFacebook
Off: oh. I thought everything was going a bit too smoothly yesterday... should be working again now.
Also might have to turn off autolinking @ to Twitter seeing as all websites seem to use it now...
On: I can't remember whether I left or was banned from Juggling Rock. I think I just left. Good for those who have protested & made their views known but sadly there are 13k+ members of the group the majority of which will do nothing & therefore completely vindicating the mods in their eyes :(
The lower “Mark all as read” link doesn’t and also returns a blank screen in my iPad. The upper link works.
Cedric Lackpot - - Parent #
Same here, I just hit "Mark all unread posts on this page (11) as read" and got a 500.
Honestly, fuck Pavel Evsukevich and most (not all) Russian jugglers. Polluted by their politics.
While I appreciate you & everyone else's frustration, that is too harsh. Discrimination against LGBTQ+ is spectacularly not limited to Russia. We have a few Russian friends here on the Edge. Ilia & Sergei are the most active & I've found them to be nothing but positive.
Imagine you are a young (insert ANY demographic here) who has nothing against (insert ANY minority here) but among your peers there are people who hold bigoted opinions. So for a break you go online to find someone to talk to & come across somewhere that looks interesting but you find a post that says, "Fuck (inserted demographic)". That person is likely to turn away & go back to their peers & get sucked into normalised discrimination.
Fight the idea, not the person.
Little Paul - - Parent #
Are you /sure/ you don't want to implement a "like" button?
I actually tried to delete it like 2 minutes after I sent it, but there doesn't seem to be a delete option. Again, my bad and that was out of character of me.
This is actually a perfect example of why I don't implement a delete or edit button.
I know you care & feel strongly about the issue. I appreciate that. I also now know that you realise your original post was too much, & you apologised. I respect that too. I wouldn't have known either of those things if you had deleted your post.
Little Paul - - Parent #
I think we're all "polluted by our politics" - it's just that the political environment you inhabit is different...
Which I think I'm probably fine with!
We're all allowed to have different views of the world, and I think it's perfectly ok to disagree with someone else's views. I think it's also perfectly ok to have your views challenged, to challenge the views of others, or to expect your views to be challenged!
I'm not particularly ok with people shutting down the views of people they disagree with, or resorting to "us vs them" tribal generalisations... but I'm never going to be very effective at stopping people behaving like that.
All that said, I've never been a member of any juggling related facebook groups, so I don't really have a dog in this particular fight (at least, not outside the confines of this thread) so my opinions are worth exactly what you've paid for them! :)
Talking of opinions - I do have some pretty strong views about the modern day pride movement, and I'm sure if I expounded those views here the debate would get rather "lively" [2] - but there's a time and a place for that sort of conversation...
That time isn't here, and that place isn't now [3]
[1] Good heavens I certainly did a lot of that back in the old rec.juggling days. Some of which I'm not particularly proud of, as I was a little more robust and a little less respectful than I would be these days.
[2] And I would probably upset some people that I see as dear friends, and if I'm going to upset anyone I'd rather do it in person than over the internet!
[3] And I'm too old for that much lunchtime drinking on a school-day
If I try to think of an LGBTQ+ friendly place in the juggling world I immediately think of Bungay. But then the Bungay crowd are friendly towards everything not just LGBTQ+ people. The attendance is made up of a higher portion of openly LGBTQ+ people than I experience in my normal white British male day to day life. I think this is because the people are attracted to the friendly nature as well as the friendly nature is a result of the people. A lot of the same crowd attend BJCs which I also consider a good inclusive festival, but it is certainly not on a par with Bungay & I can't articulate why I think that way.
Ben Beever did over 20 cycles of 6 ball 945 to raise money for the Red Cross. I was privileged enough to witness this in person. He did 30 cycles earlier in the day but the camera wasn't rolling at the time.
https://youtu.be/JP9vo4rCDQU
Very difficult-looking pattern. Wish I could have seen it too. Does Ben Beever still juggle regularly?
Daniel Simu - - Parent #
He was giving workshops last year at DumboDays. Too bad you missed it!
Yet again I have been lambasted for not writing about TWJC this week, so I will write about Hastings. It was a very busy night, joining the Hastings regulars we had four of us visit from TWJC & we were also joined by Eric from Leeds who will be moving to the area in a couple of months. John was continuing with his Juggling Jaunt, Hastings being stop number 8. Almost everyone in attendance could juggle 5 balls so it seemed silly not to have an endurance competition. The first game came down to a showdown between Simon, Colin, newbie Eric & myself, Andy went round critiquing our patterns, Eric juggles with one foot pointing out 10° more than the other. I apparently juggle with my head cocked slightly to the left (I like to think it gives me a whimsical appearance). I managed to win the first round but was forced to swap my nice uglies for some uncomfortable large overfilled thuds for the second round, I was doing ok but then I dropped while I was heckling Rob. Andy was juggling two ping pong balls on a bat & it was nice to find that this trick is something that Simon couldn't do straight away. Simon also suggested trying moshikame with a ping pong ball which was monstrously difficult. This is not a trick for the weak of knee. Every catch needs to be cushioned from standing right down to the floor, I managed to get up to all of 5 consecutive catches before my legs gave out.
#hcc
Jay Gilligan does a TEDx talk on the evolution of juggling:
https://youtu.be/M2I1V_MnkI4
(The x denotes a crossing TED talk).
Little Paul - - Parent #
Interesting story about why rings are the size they are. I'd not heard that before.
Interesting talk. I much prefer traditional props but then a talk on normal balls, rings and clubs wouldn't be interesting, right?
Great presentation - I found that *very* entertaining.
I guess most people will have seen Michael Moschen's talk?
https://youtu.be/BS-LyKorcq8
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